Comments on: John Warner is running http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:13:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jack http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21447 Jack Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:58:53 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21447 I mention Wilder because he ran in the primary against Robb once. I mention Wilder because he ran in the primary against Robb once.

]]> By: Citizen Tom http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21413 Citizen Tom Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:41:42 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21413 The fact no one seems likely to provide Warner a serious challenge for his senate seat is rather pathetic. Warner has been an unremarkable senator. Whatever the issue, lukewarm best describes his position. Shows us all the power of incumbency. The fact no one seems likely to provide Warner a serious challenge for his senate seat is rather pathetic. Warner has been an unremarkable senator. Whatever the issue, lukewarm best describes his position. Shows us all the power of incumbency.

]]> By: Randy Klear http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21350 Randy Klear Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:17:37 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21350 I'm aware that Gilmore is itching to run, Vivian. I'm just not convinced that he's the nominee if he does. What I think is that there are people who believe they can beat Gilmore in a primary, and are willing to take the risk. I’m aware that Gilmore is itching to run, Vivian. I’m just not convinced that he’s the nominee if he does. What I think is that there are people who believe they can beat Gilmore in a primary, and are willing to take the risk.

]]> By: Jane Oldham http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21302 Jane Oldham Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:58:23 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21302 Warner won't lose a republican primary. Only nutjobs would run against him in a primary. I guess my reliable source was very reliable when she said that John Warner told her, just after the election, that he would run again. Mark Warner won't run against John Warner, been there, done that, bad outcome. I don't know anyone who wants a return of Governor Giveless. The man is a legend in his own mind. But nowhere else. Warner won’t lose a republican primary. Only nutjobs would run against him in a primary. I guess my reliable source was very reliable when she said that John Warner told her, just after the election, that he would run again.

Mark Warner won’t run against John Warner, been there, done that, bad outcome.

I don’t know anyone who wants a return of Governor Giveless. The man is a legend in his own mind. But nowhere else.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21260 vjp Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:25:09 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21260 Bryan - Moran won't run for Senate. There is little to be gained for him to do so. Yes, he's been a great Caucus Chair, but to run against John Warner would be a very difficult race. Something that has come out on other blogs is the possibility of a closed Republican primary. If that is possible (and I'm not sure that it is), Warner could lose in the primary. That would put a totally different spin on things. Randy - I'm not sure that it would be so much of a stepping aside as simply a case of fate. Gilmore is itching to run against M Warner, mainly because Warner ran against Gilmore's record. I think Gilmore could win a Republican primary on the same car tax repeal platform. Bryan – Moran won’t run for Senate. There is little to be gained for him to do so. Yes, he’s been a great Caucus Chair, but to run against John Warner would be a very difficult race.

Something that has come out on other blogs is the possibility of a closed Republican primary. If that is possible (and I’m not sure that it is), Warner could lose in the primary. That would put a totally different spin on things.

Randy – I’m not sure that it would be so much of a stepping aside as simply a case of fate. Gilmore is itching to run against M Warner, mainly because Warner ran against Gilmore’s record. I think Gilmore could win a Republican primary on the same car tax repeal platform.

]]> By: Randy Klear http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21229 Randy Klear Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:33:04 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21229 One other thing. I don't profess to be an expert on Republican thinking, but I don't see Bolling or, especially, McDonnell stepping aside for Jim Gilmore. They both have to see that the fiscal mess Gilmore created in his last term, pushing car tax repeal and spending increases at the same time, created the divide that exists in the Virginia GOP today. They also have egos (what politician doesn't?), and both must believe that this is their time. I am convinced that McDonnell will not back off from a primary fight; his $2 million smear job of Steve Baril in 2005 proved that. Maybe, just maybe, he'd step back for Allen, but Gilmore? No. One other thing. I don’t profess to be an expert on Republican thinking, but I don’t see Bolling or, especially, McDonnell stepping aside for Jim Gilmore. They both have to see that the fiscal mess Gilmore created in his last term, pushing car tax repeal and spending increases at the same time, created the divide that exists in the Virginia GOP today. They also have egos (what politician doesn’t?), and both must believe that this is their time. I am convinced that McDonnell will not back off from a primary fight; his $2 million smear job of Steve Baril in 2005 proved that. Maybe, just maybe, he’d step back for Allen, but Gilmore? No.

]]> By: Terry http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-2/#comment-21219 Terry Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:16:27 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21219 "[…] Vivian gives what may be the most plausible scenario with John Warner is running. […]" I agree. “[…] Vivian gives what may be the most plausible scenario with John Warner is running. […]”

I agree.

]]> By: The Ward View » John Warner in 2008? http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-21180 The Ward View » John Warner in 2008? Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:35:41 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21180 [...] Vivian gives what may be the most plausible scenario with John Warner is running. [...] [...] Vivian gives what may be the most plausible scenario with John Warner is running. [...]

]]> By: Bryan J. Scrafford http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-21101 Bryan J. Scrafford Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:25:47 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21101 If Senator Warner runs for reelection, then Gov. Warner will probably run for governor in '09. If Gov. Warner runs for governor in '09, Brian Moran will run for Senate in '08. So if Senator Warner runs for reelection, I think Brian Moran will run for Senate. Moran has done a great job as the leader of the Democratic Caucus down in Richmond and did a lot to help out Democrats running this year, which means that he is likely to have the support of many Democrats. When it comes to beating Warner, however, I think it will be tough for a candidate from either party to overcome Warner's name recognition. If Senator Warner runs for reelection, then Gov. Warner will probably run for governor in ‘09.

If Gov. Warner runs for governor in ‘09, Brian Moran will run for Senate in ‘08.

So if Senator Warner runs for reelection, I think Brian Moran will run for Senate.

Moran has done a great job as the leader of the Democratic Caucus down in Richmond and did a lot to help out Democrats running this year, which means that he is likely to have the support of many Democrats. When it comes to beating Warner, however, I think it will be tough for a candidate from either party to overcome Warner’s name recognition.

]]> By: Alice Marshall http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-21056 Alice Marshall Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:30 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21056 Zinni is fine with me. He has not won an election, but otherwise I am OK with him. What bothers me is that those who oppose the war seem unwilling to hold JOHN Warner accountable. Zinni is fine with me. He has not won an election, but otherwise I am OK with him.

What bothers me is that those who oppose the war seem unwilling to hold JOHN Warner accountable.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-21026 vjp Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:18:39 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21026 Terry - I've been cannon fodder once. No need to do that again ;) And Jack - I doubt if Wilder would be interested. I suspect he is pretty happy being mayor of Richmond. Randy hit on why I don't think it will be Mark - can't imagine him being anything other than the leader, not a member of the pack following. Terry – I’ve been cannon fodder once. No need to do that again ;) And Jack – I doubt if Wilder would be interested. I suspect he is pretty happy being mayor of Richmond. Randy hit on why I don’t think it will be Mark – can’t imagine him being anything other than the leader, not a member of the pack following.

]]> By: Randy Klear http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-21016 Randy Klear Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:10:10 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-21016 None of the established Democrats are going to waste an election cycle running against John Warner. Mark Warner, especially, will avoid it; his management skills are wasted in a legislative body anyway. It will take a newcomer, another Jim Webb, with foreign policy credentials to match Warner's. Anyone for an Anthony Zinni draft? He lives in Williamsburg, or at least he did a year ago when he was on the state BRAC Commssion. None of the established Democrats are going to waste an election cycle running against John Warner. Mark Warner, especially, will avoid it; his management skills are wasted in a legislative body anyway. It will take a newcomer, another Jim Webb, with foreign policy credentials to match Warner’s. Anyone for an Anthony Zinni draft? He lives in Williamsburg, or at least he did a year ago when he was on the state BRAC Commssion.

]]> By: Jack http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20998 Jack Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:43:45 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20998 What about Wilder? What about Wilder?

]]> By: Terry http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20997 Terry Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:43:44 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20997 It is possible that someone could emerge. Let me be the first to nominate you Vivian, heh, :) It is possible that someone could emerge.

Let me be the first to nominate you Vivian, heh, :)

]]> By: Alice Marshall http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20996 Alice Marshall Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:37:15 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20996 I would say Beyer, but it looks like too many are more interested in keeping grudges from the primary than ending the war. There is Grisham. I think a strong anti-war candidate who has won an election, GA, municipal, whatever, could beat Warner. The war will only get worse. But not if we are going to turn a blind eye to what is going on. I would say Beyer, but it looks like too many are more interested in keeping grudges from the primary than ending the war.

There is Grisham. I think a strong anti-war candidate who has won an election, GA, municipal, whatever, could beat Warner. The war will only get worse. But not if we are going to turn a blind eye to what is going on.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20987 vjp Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:15:34 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20987 At this point, I don't know who besides Mark could beat John. (Of course, the same could be said about Allen a little earlier this year.) But I don't think Mark will run against John (again). It is possible that someone could emerge. At this point, I don’t know who besides Mark could beat John. (Of course, the same could be said about Allen a little earlier this year.) But I don’t think Mark will run against John (again).

It is possible that someone could emerge.

]]> By: Alice Marshall http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20986 Alice Marshall Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:08:51 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20986 If we decide that Warner is unbeatable, the certainly we cannot beat him. But if we want to end the war then we will have to find a way to beat him. If we decide that Warner is unbeatable, the certainly we cannot beat him. But if we want to end the war then we will have to find a way to beat him.

]]> By: Terry http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20985 Terry Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:54:37 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20985 Certainly Warner will have AT LEAST a Dem. challenger in 2008, the only person RIGHT NOW, that I think could beat him is Mark Warner. The national political atmosphere in 2008 may be able to impact it as well. Who knows. The fact that Warner will be 81 (meaning he'll be 87 before his term ends) might concern a lot of voters. Certainly Warner will have AT LEAST a Dem. challenger in 2008, the only person RIGHT NOW, that I think could beat him is Mark Warner. The national political atmosphere in 2008 may be able to impact it as well. Who knows.

The fact that Warner will be 81 (meaning he’ll be 87 before his term ends) might concern a lot of voters.

]]> By: Bryan Scrafford http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20978 Bryan Scrafford Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:33:36 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20978 If Senator Warner does run for reelection I believe that the Democratic candidate will probably a person who is just emerging on the statewide scene and, thus, could use this opportunity to gain name recognition and spread his message. If Senator Warner does run for reelection I believe that the Democratic candidate will probably a person who is just emerging on the statewide scene and, thus, could use this opportunity to gain name recognition and spread his message.

]]> By: Alice Marshall http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20977 Alice Marshall Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:30:37 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20977 If we want to get out of Iraq we need to challenge JOHN Warner. If we want to get out of Iraq we need to challenge JOHN Warner.

]]> By: Jack http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20974 Jack Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:16:11 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20974 He's going for Strom Thurmond's record. He’s going for Strom Thurmond’s record.

]]> By: MB http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/comment-page-1/#comment-20968 MB Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:59:24 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/john-warner-is-running/#comment-20968 My thought is that John Warner will be 80 years old in a couple of months. My thought is that John Warner will be 80 years old in a couple of months.

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