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	<title>Comments on: Minimum wage increase passes Senate</title>
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		<title>By: The Ward View &#187; Friday Whine and Cheese</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-2/#comment-42168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ward View &#187; Friday Whine and Cheese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] let&#8217;s be clear.  It&#8217;s Vivian&#8217;s house, you have to play by Vivian&#8217;s rules.  But c&#8217;mon Vivian, you&#8217;re one of the most reasonable and gracious bloggers from the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] let&#8217;s be clear.  It&#8217;s Vivian&#8217;s house, you have to play by Vivian&#8217;s rules.  But c&#8217;mon Vivian, you&#8217;re one of the most reasonable and gracious bloggers from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-2/#comment-41988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vjp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of you who have come over here for the first time - welcome. Now, take a few minutes and browse around the blog and see how tolerant I have been of Jack and his antics. This was the proverbial straw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you who have come over here for the first time &#8211; welcome. Now, take a few minutes and browse around the blog and see how tolerant I have been of Jack and his antics. This was the proverbial straw.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-2/#comment-41985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more point.  I&#039;ve no doubt that many people use the term &quot;Democrat Party&quot; in the same way that they refer to Bernie Sanders (I-VT) as the Senate&#039;s only &quot;admitted Socialist.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point.  I&#8217;ve no doubt that many people use the term &#8220;Democrat Party&#8221; in the same way that they refer to Bernie Sanders (I-VT) as the Senate&#8217;s only &#8220;admitted Socialist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-2/#comment-41984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, BS, critics (you?/people of the Left/Democrats) come back with phrases like &quot;far right,&quot; &quot;right-wing,&quot; &quot;bigots,&quot; and other such nonsense.  And yet, I&#039;m willing to bet a dollar that neither you nor our host has inveighed against such practices.  No BS.

At the same time, I would probably be willing to concede that our host has not used such phrases, since a brief search (with her search function) reveals no uses of the phrases &quot;far right&quot; or &quot;right-wing&quot; on this blog.  She has, however, labeled those supporting the common understanding of language regarding  &quot;bigot,&quot; and fails to appreciate the irony in his labeling himself the Commonwealth&#039;s &quot;chief homophobe&quot; (the WaPo article she cites notes that he &quot;wryly&quot; labeled himself as such, as a belittling reference to critics).

Moreover, there can be, and of course is, good, solid reasons why people use the term &quot;Democrat Party&quot; in lieu of &quot;Democratic Party.&quot;  There is very little &quot;democratic&quot; about today&#039;s Democrats.  To the contrary, today&#039;s most prominent Democrats have more in common with socialists (i.e., socialized medicine) than with traditional Democrats (slavery; Jim Crow; anti-Communism).

Now, I&#039;ve got little patience for those who mindlessly use &quot;Democrat Party&quot; without consideration.  But you would lose a dollar if you bet against the notion that I, and others, do so with considered --- and in some ways, regretful --- thoughts about the state of today&#039;s Democrats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, BS, critics (you?/people of the Left/Democrats) come back with phrases like &#8220;far right,&#8221; &#8220;right-wing,&#8221; &#8220;bigots,&#8221; and other such nonsense.  And yet, I&#8217;m willing to bet a dollar that neither you nor our host has inveighed against such practices.  No BS.</p>
<p>At the same time, I would probably be willing to concede that our host has not used such phrases, since a brief search (with her search function) reveals no uses of the phrases &#8220;far right&#8221; or &#8220;right-wing&#8221; on this blog.  She has, however, labeled those supporting the common understanding of language regarding  &#8220;bigot,&#8221; and fails to appreciate the irony in his labeling himself the Commonwealth&#8217;s &#8220;chief homophobe&#8221; (the WaPo article she cites notes that he &#8220;wryly&#8221; labeled himself as such, as a belittling reference to critics).</p>
<p>Moreover, there can be, and of course is, good, solid reasons why people use the term &#8220;Democrat Party&#8221; in lieu of &#8220;Democratic Party.&#8221;  There is very little &#8220;democratic&#8221; about today&#8217;s Democrats.  To the contrary, today&#8217;s most prominent Democrats have more in common with socialists (i.e., socialized medicine) than with traditional Democrats (slavery; Jim Crow; anti-Communism).</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve got little patience for those who mindlessly use &#8220;Democrat Party&#8221; without consideration.  But you would lose a dollar if you bet against the notion that I, and others, do so with considered &#8212; and in some ways, regretful &#8212; thoughts about the state of today&#8217;s Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: BS</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-2/#comment-41978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disrespect is disrespect!  That little &quot;ic&quot; slip can be excused once or twice, but once it becomes habit it&#039;s disrespectful to the party and it&#039;s people.  We certaintly don&#039;t come back with calling republicans &quot;the repubes&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disrespect is disrespect!  That little &#8220;ic&#8221; slip can be excused once or twice, but once it becomes habit it&#8217;s disrespectful to the party and it&#8217;s people.  We certaintly don&#8217;t come back with calling republicans &#8220;the repubes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kirwin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh the left...the protectors of free speech.

yeah, right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh the left&#8230;the protectors of free speech.</p>
<p>yeah, right.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Citizen Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone noticed that instead of having anything kind to say about the minimum wage bill, we are having discussion on the proper use of the term &quot;Democrat&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed that instead of having anything kind to say about the minimum wage bill, we are having discussion on the proper use of the term &#8220;Democrat&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Callie</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Callie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How old are you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How old are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Budzinski</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Budzinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Vivian, you need to back off in this &quot;fight&quot;. You are one of the good ones and it makes no sense to expend your considerable respectability on such a silly issue.

The &quot;Democrat Party&quot;? Please.

Let&#039;s do this: You compose an essay explaining why that is such a distasteful phrase, and halfway through the writing when you realize how ridiculous it is in the grand scheme of things you gracefully admit you were slipped a shot of Kool-Aid and have now recovered your senses.

There are, I&#039;m sure, plenty of legitimate reasons to ban Jack from your site, but this is certainly not one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Vivian, you need to back off in this &#8220;fight&#8221;. You are one of the good ones and it makes no sense to expend your considerable respectability on such a silly issue.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Democrat Party&#8221;? Please.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do this: You compose an essay explaining why that is such a distasteful phrase, and halfway through the writing when you realize how ridiculous it is in the grand scheme of things you gracefully admit you were slipped a shot of Kool-Aid and have now recovered your senses.</p>
<p>There are, I&#8217;m sure, plenty of legitimate reasons to ban Jack from your site, but this is certainly not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Stay Puft Marshmallow Man</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stay Puft Marshmallow Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what you have here is some classic Jack.  I like how he bothers to capitalize the &quot;D&quot;  

oh Jack, I love you in a gay way!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what you have here is some classic Jack.  I like how he bothers to capitalize the &#8220;D&#8221;  </p>
<p>oh Jack, I love you in a gay way!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Mataconis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vivian,

I enjoy your blog and consider you generally reasonable.....but isn&#039;t this an over-reaction ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivian,</p>
<p>I enjoy your blog and consider you generally reasonable&#8230;..but isn&#8217;t this an over-reaction ?</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vjp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack - consider yourself banned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack &#8211; consider yourself banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We went down that path, and you couldn&#039;t explain it before, either.  The best you could come up with is &quot;it grates on my ears.&quot;  How insulting.  How &#039;bout changing the name to &quot;The Perpetually Offended Party&quot;?

Shall we get back to debating issues?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We went down that path, and you couldn&#8217;t explain it before, either.  The best you could come up with is &#8220;it grates on my ears.&#8221;  How insulting.  How &#8217;bout changing the name to &#8220;The Perpetually Offended Party&#8221;?</p>
<p>Shall we get back to debating issues?</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vjp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/11/27/democrat-v-democratic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already&lt;/a&gt; been down that path.My blog, my rules. Refer to the Democratic Party by its proper name or find another place to hurl your insults.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve <a href="http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2006/11/27/democrat-v-democratic/" rel="nofollow">already</a> been down that path.My blog, my rules. Refer to the Democratic Party by its proper name or find another place to hurl your insults.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is it insulting?  Is it an insult to be a Democrat now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it insulting?  Is it an insult to be a Democrat now?</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vjp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last warning, Jack. It is insulting to call it the &quot;Democrat&quot; Party and you know it. You can make your point without doing that. I won&#039;t warn you again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last warning, Jack. It is insulting to call it the &#8220;Democrat&#8221; Party and you know it. You can make your point without doing that. I won&#8217;t warn you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems the Democrat Party only cares about keeping people dependent upon the government.  No school choice, only government should have guns, welfare, single-payer health care, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the Democrat Party only cares about keeping people dependent upon the government.  No school choice, only government should have guns, welfare, single-payer health care, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41922</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Citizen Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The minimum wage is ignorant economics.  People get paid based upon supply and demand.  The reason low skilled workers earn low wages is because there plenty of people without any skills.  The fact we have illegal aliens in this country just adds to the supply.

If we raise the minimum wage, two things will happen.  People will be fired because the work they do cannot pay for itself, and employers will find it cost effective to automate and lay off additional unskilled workers.

If the Democrats were serious about helping Americans earn their keep, they would do something about the illegal aliens, and they would support school choice (improving educational opportunities).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The minimum wage is ignorant economics.  People get paid based upon supply and demand.  The reason low skilled workers earn low wages is because there plenty of people without any skills.  The fact we have illegal aliens in this country just adds to the supply.</p>
<p>If we raise the minimum wage, two things will happen.  People will be fired because the work they do cannot pay for itself, and employers will find it cost effective to automate and lay off additional unskilled workers.</p>
<p>If the Democrats were serious about helping Americans earn their keep, they would do something about the illegal aliens, and they would support school choice (improving educational opportunities).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41882</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I support a minimum wage on the state level.  Thats where it belongs.  The state knows best the needs over its people.  I don&#039;t want a congressman from California deciding how much we here in Virginia make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support a minimum wage on the state level.  Thats where it belongs.  The state knows best the needs over its people.  I don&#8217;t want a congressman from California deciding how much we here in Virginia make.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2007/01/30/minimum-wage-increase-passes-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-41879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read the U.S. Constitution, and I sure can&#039;t find any federal government responsibility involved in the minimum wage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the U.S. Constitution, and I sure can&#8217;t find any federal government responsibility involved in the minimum wage.</p>
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