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		<title>By: spotter</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spotter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until they find the memo.  Hillary Clinton is serious, strong, extremely intelligent, independent, and hard-working.  Those are good traits, in a man or a woman.  She doesn&#039;t need to apologize for that, or to show her &quot;human&quot; side.  The people who demand that she does are holding her to a different standard than the male candidates, as if those traits somehow contradict &quot;humanity&quot; in a woman.  She should have had the courage to call them on it directly.

No one has ever asked Rudy Guiliani or Fred Thompson why they&#039;re not &quot;likeable.&quot;  No one ever asked them &quot;how they do it&quot; or &quot;who does your hair.&quot;  No one has created an avalanche of press coverage over the response, or given us breathless updates on the woman who dared to ask this supposedly groundbreaking question.

To me, this is the gender equivalent of the &quot;is he black enough&quot; question that Obama faces, from many of the usual suspects. Exactly what is the right quantity of &quot;black?&quot;  Exactly how &quot;female&quot; must Hillary Clinton be?  Does she show it by crying, silliness, frivolity, or that little laugh?  It really comes down to, is Hillary Clinton a &quot;real woman?&quot;  Of course she is, and she should have the courage to be who she really is, no matter the consequences.

These questions are being asked by people who, only a decade ago, listed &quot;working moms&quot; as a serious social problem, right alongside drug addiction, unemployment, poverty, and gangs.  Their worldview is seriously skewed.  They are wrong.  There is no contradiction between professional accomplishments and being female.  Those who think otherwise should be confronted directly, not reaffirmed in their sexist assumptions with a Butterfly McQueen moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until they find the memo.  Hillary Clinton is serious, strong, extremely intelligent, independent, and hard-working.  Those are good traits, in a man or a woman.  She doesn&#8217;t need to apologize for that, or to show her &#8220;human&#8221; side.  The people who demand that she does are holding her to a different standard than the male candidates, as if those traits somehow contradict &#8220;humanity&#8221; in a woman.  She should have had the courage to call them on it directly.</p>
<p>No one has ever asked Rudy Guiliani or Fred Thompson why they&#8217;re not &#8220;likeable.&#8221;  No one ever asked them &#8220;how they do it&#8221; or &#8220;who does your hair.&#8221;  No one has created an avalanche of press coverage over the response, or given us breathless updates on the woman who dared to ask this supposedly groundbreaking question.</p>
<p>To me, this is the gender equivalent of the &#8220;is he black enough&#8221; question that Obama faces, from many of the usual suspects. Exactly what is the right quantity of &#8220;black?&#8221;  Exactly how &#8220;female&#8221; must Hillary Clinton be?  Does she show it by crying, silliness, frivolity, or that little laugh?  It really comes down to, is Hillary Clinton a &#8220;real woman?&#8221;  Of course she is, and she should have the courage to be who she really is, no matter the consequences.</p>
<p>These questions are being asked by people who, only a decade ago, listed &#8220;working moms&#8221; as a serious social problem, right alongside drug addiction, unemployment, poverty, and gangs.  Their worldview is seriously skewed.  They are wrong.  There is no contradiction between professional accomplishments and being female.  Those who think otherwise should be confronted directly, not reaffirmed in their sexist assumptions with a Butterfly McQueen moment.</p>
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		<title>By: The Squeaky Wheel</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Squeaky Wheel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crying Woman = sympathy votes.

I bet the guy who polled that staged cry-fest is proud of his recomendation.  

Sad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crying Woman = sympathy votes.</p>
<p>I bet the guy who polled that staged cry-fest is proud of his recomendation.  </p>
<p>Sad</p>
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		<title>By: Anon E. Mouse</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon E. Mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and Jessie is like a Ford Model T -- 100% American and 100% Black.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Jessie is like a Ford Model T &#8212; 100% American and 100% Black.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon E. Mouse</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon E. Mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who are ignorant of History....

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;Jesse Jackson&#039;s &#039;88 campaign won 13 primaries and caucuses and 29 percent of the total primary vote,&quot; recalls Steve Cobble, a top strategist for the campaign who remains one of the ablest analysts of U.S. politics. &quot;Jesse Jackson&#039;s &#039;88 campaign also put more people into caucuses than any other campaign, won 1,218.5 total convention delegates -- the highest total ever for a runner-up -- and pulled in over 7 million votes overall. And Jackson&#039;s &#039;88 convention delegation in Atlanta was easily the most diverse group of delegates ever to attend a national convention.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/261474]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who are ignorant of History&#8230;.</p>
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&#8220;Jesse Jackson&#8217;s &#8217;88 campaign won 13 primaries and caucuses and 29 percent of the total primary vote,&#8221; recalls Steve Cobble, a top strategist for the campaign who remains one of the ablest analysts of U.S. politics. &#8220;Jesse Jackson&#8217;s &#8217;88 campaign also put more people into caucuses than any other campaign, won 1,218.5 total convention delegates &#8212; the highest total ever for a runner-up &#8212; and pulled in over 7 million votes overall. And Jackson&#8217;s &#8217;88 convention delegation in Atlanta was easily the most diverse group of delegates ever to attend a national convention.&#8221;
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<p><a href="http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/261474" rel="nofollow">http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/261474</a></p>
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		<title>By: eileen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eileen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanna echo Anon 11:22&#039;s excitement!  This is just so exciting.  Dem voters apparently turned out in droves in NH.  Good for them!  And good for the U.S.!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanna echo Anon 11:22&#8242;s excitement!  This is just so exciting.  Dem voters apparently turned out in droves in NH.  Good for them!  And good for the U.S.!</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hillary has a lot of positives - she&#039;s smart, thoughtful, and can throw a punch (and lord knows she can take one).  But one of the negatives that keeps me from getting behind her is that yes, we&#039;ll get back &quot;that&quot; crowd.  They did some good things, to be sure, but they&#039;re also the same Dems that let the last 8 years happen.  It&#039;s a big negative, in my book.  However, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a big negative in enough books to make a difference - it won&#039;t even crisp her up, nevermind make her toast.

And while I&#039;m at it, I&#039;ll even say it was nice to see her give the electoral finger to the punditry.  The speed and effort that the Cool Kids put into burying her after Iowa was almost enough to make me pull for her yesterday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has a lot of positives &#8211; she&#8217;s smart, thoughtful, and can throw a punch (and lord knows she can take one).  But one of the negatives that keeps me from getting behind her is that yes, we&#8217;ll get back &#8220;that&#8221; crowd.  They did some good things, to be sure, but they&#8217;re also the same Dems that let the last 8 years happen.  It&#8217;s a big negative, in my book.  However, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a big negative in enough books to make a difference &#8211; it won&#8217;t even crisp her up, nevermind make her toast.</p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m at it, I&#8217;ll even say it was nice to see her give the electoral finger to the punditry.  The speed and effort that the Cool Kids put into burying her after Iowa was almost enough to make me pull for her yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: linda b</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[linda b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[terry Mc Auliffe? I hope they don&#039;t bring back THAT crowd. You do , hillary and you are toast.
We need to go forward, no back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>terry Mc Auliffe? I hope they don&#8217;t bring back THAT crowd. You do , hillary and you are toast.<br />
We need to go forward, no back.</p>
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		<title>By: spotter</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spotter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stayed up late enough to hear Terry McAuliffe attribute the win to Hillary Clinton&#039;s &quot;humanizing moment&quot; (his words).  Barf, barf, barf.

This is a cheap trick that cannot be repeated.  What&#039;s next?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stayed up late enough to hear Terry McAuliffe attribute the win to Hillary Clinton&#8217;s &#8220;humanizing moment&#8221; (his words).  Barf, barf, barf.</p>
<p>This is a cheap trick that cannot be repeated.  What&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vjp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 04:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;m old enough ;) I&#039;ll say this: the pictures now are better :lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m old enough <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ll say this: the pictures now are better <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 04:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an amazing week for American history.  Last week, for the first time ever, a black man won a primary contest.  This week, for the first time ever, a woman did the same thing.

I kind of wish I was old enough to know if this is what it was like to see a man walk on the moon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an amazing week for American history.  Last week, for the first time ever, a black man won a primary contest.  This week, for the first time ever, a woman did the same thing.</p>
<p>I kind of wish I was old enough to know if this is what it was like to see a man walk on the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: HMR</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/01/08/obligatory-new-hampshire-post/comment-page-1/#comment-112964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HMR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 04:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I had to stay up and watch what happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I had to stay up and watch what happened.</p>
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