Comments on: Just some stuff I ran across

By: MQ

MQ — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:01:58 +0000

You should check out this blogger. He has a good vantage point.
http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/the-long-christian-prophetic-t.html

By: proudvadem

proudvadem — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:51:52 +0000

I read the piece..the whole long piece that Gonzalez wrote. Maybe it’s not a smear, but remember this is a guy who wants to BEAT the Democrats come November. This is not an ally of Clinton nor Obama and he wants to tear both apart. Do not be surprised when he writes one about HRC.

Wright had a very limited role in faith based outreach. His quotes took place in his church in the pulpit. Carville took place while pimping himself to the media. BIG difference.
And let me say, I have a ton of respect for Bill Richardson. I do not like his character being called into question. Richardson made his decision and it deserves to be respected. Just as anyone on here who is supporting a candidate deserves respect and not ridicule for who we are supporting- whether it is Obama or Clinton.

By: T-Shirt

T-Shirt — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:47:30 +0000

proudvadem – I don’t think you read Gonzalez’s article otherwise you wouldn’t be calling it a smear. Also, Wright was a member of the Obama campaign.

By: proudvadem

proudvadem — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:57:07 +0000

Vivan,
I didn’t hold her responsible. I held her CAMPAIGN responsible. I used to also think a lot of Carville.

There is a HUGE difference, Carville is part of her campaign. Wright is not. Period. Carville was speaking on behalf of the campaign. Wright was not.

I looked @ the article by the Green candidate. I just see it as a smear piece. Obama has not pandered (remember him telling auto workers that we do near higher MPG standards?, not exactly “panding”).
I am a Roman Catholic Christian, calling someone a “Judas” is one of the most insulting things that anyone can say. I find it very offensive and highly incendiary.

And as I said in my post, I expected more from her and I am disappointed in her campaign’s direction.

By: Anon E. Mouse

Anon E. Mouse — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:21:35 +0000

Hillary has not changed, ProudVaDem. It is just that you now see her as she really is, and not what she wanted you to see. I am glad the scales have fallen from your eyes.

By: vjp

vjp — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:15:35 +0000

Why are you holding Hillary responsible for that comment? She didn’t say it. Are you holding Barack responsible for Wright’s comments?

And before ignoring the Nadar VP, at least look at his article.

By: proudvadem

proudvadem — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:10:45 +0000

I’m sorry Vivian, the “Judas” comment was the LAST straw for me.
I looked up to HRC so much when in the 90s, I ran out and bought her books the day they went on sale, defended her vehemently, and sent her $$ to her when she ran for Senate.
I don’t even know who she is anymore. Maybe I figured she’d be above the fray…but the tone of her campaign is disgusting. And Carville’s comment about Richardson was WAY over the line.
IF the Democratic party DOES have a “Judas”, his name is Joe Leiberman!

And I don’t give the Green candidates any credibility. If it wasn’t for Nader & Co, we’d probably be enjoying a Gore Presidency.

If HRC (by some miracle) does get the nomination, at this point I will NOT lift a finger. I will, however, hold my nose and pray that her administration shows more class than her campaign has.
She is better than this. Or so I thought.

By: Anon E. Mouse

Anon E. Mouse — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:53:36 +0000

“[Anyone] who cares about liberalism and its future should be worried by its spread.”

I certainly am.