Comments on: DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee open thread http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:05:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mi Mi http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-138318 Mi Mi Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:18:34 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-138318 Can anyone PLEASE tell me what the rules/bylaws for a roll call vote are?? I say NO DEAL to the roll call vote for Hillary Clinton that would be a 'symbolic jesture'. Isn't the roll call vote supposed to stand for whomever wins according to rule/law? The DNC is making a mockery of democracy. This means WAR for equal rights/civil rights/human rights/voter's rights!! Can anyone PLEASE tell me what the rules/bylaws for a roll call vote are??

I say NO DEAL to the roll call vote for Hillary Clinton that would be a ’symbolic jesture’. Isn’t the roll call vote supposed to stand for whomever wins according to rule/law?

The DNC is making a mockery of democracy. This means WAR for equal rights/civil rights/human rights/voter’s rights!!

]]> By: Final thoughts on FL/MI « VIVIAN J. PAIGE http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-132220 Final thoughts on FL/MI « VIVIAN J. PAIGE Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:48:55 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132220 [...] the presentations made by the FL and MI challengers and the campaigns Saturday to the Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC. Although I started out in CNN, I quickly changed over to CSPAN, mainly to avoid the talking heads. [...] [...] the presentations made by the FL and MI challengers and the campaigns Saturday to the Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC. Although I started out in CNN, I quickly changed over to CSPAN, mainly to avoid the talking heads. [...]

]]> By: Gene Magruder http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-132185 Gene Magruder Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:51:16 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132185 Newport News Dem, What about the theory that HRC has that not one popular vote should count for Obama. ARe you ready to say on this blog that he would not have received one vote out of that state. Not in Detroit,not in Grand Rapids, not in Ann Arbor, no where in the state. HRC reps sat on national TV and said that they disagreed with the Michigan Democratic Committee, that they were entitled to everything in Michigan even though MS. HRC said the state would not count and even agreed to that ruling. the height of hypocrisy in my book. Now she wants, wants , wants while indicating she is willing to disenfranchise every voter in the other 48 states. Plain and simple as I have indicated before HRC has only herself to blame by not looking in a rearview mirror and seeing that she (the annointed one) actually had competition. Ickes, McCauliffe, and her husband should all be fired for a very lackluster performance. Actually a very stupid campaign staff this election year for HRC. I really thought at the beginning that she had put together an incredible team, but as I look back all she had was a bunch of Dem insiders that knew nothing about grassroot campaigns or even cared about people at our level of the political spectrum. they were the powerful, the insiders, the not to be touched speakers for our party. Well I say they got what they deserved, a loss. If Obama is the weakest candidate since McGovern, then it is what it is. I doubt that statement is even close to accurate, however if that is the way you feel then so be it. You actually should have taken my stand and not taken such an aggressive attitude towards the race however, you just can not forgive what happened to you in Richmond at the JJ where you could have easily walked away from the Obama agressiveness and probably unnecessary statements. Both camps have committed big sins. Some of the Obama people were extremely aggressive and some of the HRC people were extremely irrational and also thought they were not to be opposed. HRC pullled a Michigan as I have said and overlooked Appalachian State. P.S. go have a cold one . Newport News Dem,

What about the theory that HRC has that not one popular vote should count for Obama. ARe you ready to say on this blog that he would not have received one vote out of that state. Not in Detroit,not in Grand Rapids, not in Ann Arbor, no where in the state. HRC reps sat on national TV and said that they disagreed with the Michigan Democratic Committee, that they were entitled to everything in Michigan even though MS. HRC said the state would not count and even agreed to that ruling. the height of hypocrisy in my book. Now she wants, wants , wants while indicating she is willing to disenfranchise every voter in the other 48 states. Plain and simple as I have indicated before HRC has only herself to blame by not looking in a rearview mirror and seeing that she (the annointed one) actually had competition. Ickes, McCauliffe, and her husband should all be fired for a very lackluster performance. Actually a very stupid campaign staff this election year for HRC. I really thought at the beginning that she had put together an incredible team, but as I look back all she had was a bunch of Dem insiders that knew nothing about grassroot campaigns or even cared about people at our level of the political spectrum. they were the powerful, the insiders, the not to be touched speakers for our party. Well I say they got what they deserved, a loss. If Obama is the weakest candidate since McGovern, then it is what it is. I doubt that statement is even close to accurate, however if that is the way you feel then so be it. You actually should have taken my stand and not taken such an aggressive attitude towards the race however, you just can not forgive what happened to you in Richmond at the JJ where you could have easily walked away from the Obama agressiveness and probably unnecessary statements.
Both camps have committed big sins. Some of the Obama people were extremely aggressive and some of the HRC people were extremely irrational and also thought they were not to be opposed. HRC pullled a Michigan as I have said and overlooked Appalachian State. P.S. go have a cold one .

]]> By: BS http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-132183 BS Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:44:19 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132183 How many times and ways can we screw the Florida voters? First in the last Presidential election, and now this. Certainly not very "democratic" in any sense. Shame! Shame! Shame! They had a chance to do the right thing. OK they paid reverence to the "rules", but in the end they lost sight of the big picture. All votes should count fully! This matter is far from settled. It just got worse. My half vote just might stay home this election! Sign me "a dis-allusioned "d". How many times and ways can we screw the Florida voters? First in the last Presidential election, and now this. Certainly not very “democratic” in any
sense. Shame! Shame! Shame! They had a chance to do the right thing.
OK they paid reverence to the “rules”, but in the end they lost sight of
the big picture. All votes should count fully! This matter is far from settled.
It just got worse. My half vote just might stay home this election!
Sign me “a dis-allusioned “d”.

]]> By: Newport News Dem http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-132182 Newport News Dem Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:36:50 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132182 That Michigan "solution" was utter BS and resembles Soviet style politburo politics, whether in the open or behind closed doors. How dare they steal delegates from HRC and GIVE not only her delegates to BO, but use some heavenly powers to decide what 600k voters meant to do and GIVE BO delegates he did not win. This is patently wrong and totally undemocratic and an absolute embarrassment. Kumbaya and a "new" type of politics is now for all to see utter hypocrisy! I the "ball" is in HRC's court, BO would steal it! I stand with the people of MI and their proper battle to take on the process that anoints NH with special privileges no other states enjoys. We are about to nominate the weakest GE nominee since McGovern, the last one who received less votes and "won". That Michigan “solution” was utter BS and resembles Soviet style politburo politics, whether in the open or behind closed doors. How dare they steal delegates from HRC and GIVE not only her delegates to BO, but use some heavenly powers to decide what 600k voters meant to do and GIVE BO delegates he did not win. This is patently wrong and totally undemocratic and an absolute embarrassment. Kumbaya and a “new” type of politics is now for all to see utter hypocrisy! I the “ball” is in HRC’s court, BO would steal it!

I stand with the people of MI and their proper battle to take on the process that anoints NH with special privileges no other states enjoys.

We are about to nominate the weakest GE nominee since McGovern, the last one who received less votes and “won”.

]]> By: Gene Magruder http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-132165 Gene Magruder Sat, 31 May 2008 23:42:11 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132165 Now that this is settled regardless of Ickes statement we Democrats have an election to be won. The ball is in HRC's court now. she can take it to the convention wasting valuable time or she can try to win over 85% of the remaining superdelegates. those are her options. I thought the coverage was great and witnessed an event that obviously the Republicans would never have had open to the public. The bar is now 2118. One thing I did take from this coverage was that the Clinton political machine does not rule the Democratic Party. Now that this is settled regardless of Ickes statement we Democrats have an election to be won. The ball is in HRC’s court now. she can take it to the convention wasting valuable time or she can try to win over 85% of the remaining superdelegates. those are her options. I thought the coverage was great and witnessed an event that obviously the Republicans would never have had open to the public. The bar is now 2118. One thing I did take from this coverage was that the Clinton political machine does not rule the Democratic Party.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132163 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 23:08:14 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132163 Back from an event - more on that later. Got back in time for the vote on FL: seat entire delegation with 1/2 votes for all of the delegates, including the supers, delegate allocation based on the vote. VA's own Mame Reilly made the motion on MI to seat the entire delegation, including the supers, with 1/2 vote. Delegates are to be allocated 69 Clinton, 59 Obama (times 50%). Ickes disagrees that taking the 4 delegates from Clinton, plus the allocation of uncommitted delegates to Obama. Ickes reserved the right on behalf of Clinton to take this to the credentials committee. Back from an event – more on that later.

Got back in time for the vote on FL: seat entire delegation with 1/2 votes for all of the delegates, including the supers, delegate allocation based on the vote.

VA’s own Mame Reilly made the motion on MI to seat the entire delegation, including the supers, with 1/2 vote.

Delegates are to be allocated 69 Clinton, 59 Obama (times 50%).

Ickes disagrees that taking the 4 delegates from Clinton, plus the allocation of uncommitted delegates to Obama.

Ickes reserved the right on behalf of Clinton to take this to the credentials committee.

]]> By: MB http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132162 MB Sat, 31 May 2008 21:53:16 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132162 Public meeting, eh? Public meeting, eh?

]]> By: tx2vadem http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132158 tx2vadem Sat, 31 May 2008 20:25:21 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132158 Watching some of it, and I don't know what the outcome will be. But I hope everyone can come to an amicable conclusion so that we can move past this. I couldn't agree more with Kevin. It seems that the chairperson could have brought better order to session. I don't have a problem with supporters being there. But they should keep quiet and respect the proceedings. The audience participation is not helpful, IMHO. Watching some of it, and I don’t know what the outcome will be. But I hope everyone can come to an amicable conclusion so that we can move past this.

I couldn’t agree more with Kevin. It seems that the chairperson could have brought better order to session. I don’t have a problem with supporters being there. But they should keep quiet and respect the proceedings. The audience participation is not helpful, IMHO.

]]> By: MB http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132153 MB Sat, 31 May 2008 19:09:27 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132153 Oh.my.god. Please make the stupid stop. I was just driving back from Reston, and Waldo's Choice came to mind. I think I can understand the bridge option a little better, now. Oh.my.god. Please make the stupid stop. I was just driving back from Reston, and Waldo’s Choice came to mind. I think I can understand the bridge option a little better, now.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132152 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 18:58:21 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132152 I agree on the audience "participation," which actually got worse as the hearing went on. I think they should have broken it up and heard the two challenges separately. Lunch break now, reconvene at 4:15pm EST I agree on the audience “participation,” which actually got worse as the hearing went on. I think they should have broken it up and heard the two challenges separately.

Lunch break now, reconvene at 4:15pm EST

]]> By: kevin http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132151 kevin Sat, 31 May 2008 18:46:09 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132151 The way this meeting is being conducted is absolutely horrible. There should be no applause, cheering, or booing. We are determining process in which to select a nominee. We are not at a sporting event. The way this meeting is being conducted is absolutely horrible. There should be no applause, cheering, or booing. We are determining process in which to select a nominee. We are not at a sporting event.

]]> By: kevin http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132150 kevin Sat, 31 May 2008 18:21:37 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132150 Kabuki theatre at its finest. Kabuki theatre at its finest.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132149 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 18:18:12 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132149 Former MI governor Jim Blanchard, presenting on behalf of the Clinton campaign. Former MI governor Jim Blanchard, presenting on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132145 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 17:56:04 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132145 Now speaking is David Bonior, former House Majority Whip, presenting on behalf of the Obama campaign. Discusses why Obama took his name off the ballot. Wants the delegates split evenly between the two campaigns. (Unless I missed it, this argument was not made in the case of FL.) Now speaking is David Bonior, former House Majority Whip, presenting on behalf of the Obama campaign. Discusses why Obama took his name off the ballot. Wants the delegates split evenly between the two campaigns. (Unless I missed it, this argument was not made in the case of FL.)

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132143 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 17:42:13 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132143 Definitely political theater, at least now. But that's what I expected. I will say this, though. Ausman's FL challenge presentation wasn't political at all. Definitely political theater, at least now. But that’s what I expected. I will say this, though. Ausman’s FL challenge presentation wasn’t political at all.

]]> By: MB http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132142 MB Sat, 31 May 2008 17:38:12 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132142 Well, we can put reordering in line with verified voting. Prediction: the line will move just as fast as it's been moving. (I'm listening. There's some interesting stuff (say, the Levin testimony), but for the most part it strikes me as pretty transparent political theater. And lately, political theater has made me want to shove a screwdriver through my ear every time I hear it.) Well, we can put reordering in line with verified voting. Prediction: the line will move just as fast as it’s been moving.

(I’m listening. There’s some interesting stuff (say, the Levin testimony), but for the most part it strikes me as pretty transparent political theater. And lately, political theater has made me want to shove a screwdriver through my ear every time I hear it.)

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132141 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 17:27:37 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132141 I loved that. It is certainly time to reorder who gets to go first. I loved that. It is certainly time to reorder who gets to go first.

]]> By: Shawn O'Donnell http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132140 Shawn O'Donnell Sat, 31 May 2008 17:24:01 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132140 Levin did a good job about the IA/NH issues and the fight for fairness for other states ... in 2012 Virginia should at least have a chance to be able to hold the first in the nation Democratic primary Levin did a good job about the IA/NH issues and the fight for fairness for other states … in 2012 Virginia should at least have a chance to be able to hold the first in the nation Democratic primary

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132139 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 17:13:17 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132139 Levin makes the point that all parties - MIDP, Clinton & Obama - want the delegation seated at 100%. The disagreement is over the delegate allocation. Levin makes the point that all parties – MIDP, Clinton & Obama – want the delegation seated at 100%. The disagreement is over the delegate allocation.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-132138 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 17:11:22 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132138 Thanks, Shawn. I'm watching it on CSPAN (no commentary :) ) Senator Carl Levin is now speaking on behalf of the MIDP. Wants full seating. Thanks, Shawn. I’m watching it on CSPAN (no commentary :) )

Senator Carl Levin is now speaking on behalf of the MIDP. Wants full seating.

]]> By: Dan Geroe http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132137 Dan Geroe Sat, 31 May 2008 17:00:03 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132137 Prediction: Michigan 69/59. Might cut this in half, but unsure. Florida: All delegates seated, each given only a half vote. Not sure about Superdelegates, but expect them to be given full votes. Prediction:

Michigan 69/59. Might cut this in half, but unsure.
Florida: All delegates seated, each given only a half vote. Not sure about Superdelegates, but expect them to be given full votes.

]]> By: Shawn O'Donnell http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132136 Shawn O'Donnell Sat, 31 May 2008 16:53:35 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132136 The CNN stream is running well behind the DNC stream at http://www.democrats.org/page/content/RBCMeeting2008/ The CNN stream is running well behind the DNC stream at http://www.democrats.org/page/content/RBCMeeting2008/

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132135 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 16:38:19 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132135 Challenger for MI is the MIDP. State party chair & RBC member Mark Brewer presented on behalf of the party. Proposal: seat the entire delegation @ full strength and allocate 69 delegates to Clinton & 59 to Obama. Challenger for MI is the MIDP. State party chair & RBC member Mark Brewer presented on behalf of the party. Proposal: seat the entire delegation @ full strength and allocate 69 delegates to Clinton & 59 to Obama.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132134 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 16:32:12 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132134 Moving on to hearing the MI challenge. They want to hear this before they break for lunch and then will have the deliberations after lunch. Seems that they do not expect that the MI challenge will take as long. Moving on to hearing the MI challenge. They want to hear this before they break for lunch and then will have the deliberations after lunch. Seems that they do not expect that the MI challenge will take as long.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132133 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 16:27:03 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132133 Essentially question asked again regarding seating all of the delegates (Alice Huffman, RBC member). Wexler still is not answering the questiion. Essentially question asked again regarding seating all of the delegates (Alice Huffman, RBC member). Wexler still is not answering the questiion.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132132 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 16:15:18 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132132 Ooh - specific question on whether the Obama campaign would support restoration of full votes. Wexler refused to answer. Ooh – specific question on whether the Obama campaign would support restoration of full votes. Wexler refused to answer.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132131 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 15:55:16 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132131 Congressman Robert Wexler speaking on behalf of the Obama campaign. Argues that the campaigns believed that primary would not count and that this was not a complete primary. However, supports the Ausman petition to award 50% of the delegates. But want the SDs to be awarded half votes as well. Congressman Robert Wexler speaking on behalf of the Obama campaign. Argues that the campaigns believed that primary would not count and that this was not a complete primary. However, supports the Ausman petition to award 50% of the delegates. But want the SDs to be awarded half votes as well.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132129 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 15:32:06 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132129 FL State Senator Arthenia Joyner speaking on behalf of the Clinton campaign. Powerful speaker, gave background on how the FL Democrats in the legislature had to vote for a paper-verified voting trail bill to which the move up of the date of the primary was attached. FL State Senator Arthenia Joyner speaking on behalf of the Clinton campaign. Powerful speaker, gave background on how the FL Democrats in the legislature had to vote for a paper-verified voting trail bill to which the move up of the date of the primary was attached.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132127 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 15:08:02 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132127 Sen. Bill Nelson, presenter for FL DP. Believes that the delegates should be allocated in accordance with the vote and would like to have 100% of the delegates seated. Sen. Bill Nelson, presenter for FL DP. Believes that the delegates should be allocated in accordance with the vote and would like to have 100% of the delegates seated.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132124 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 14:50:13 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132124 Good argument on the seating of pledged delegates at 50%. Good argument on the seating of pledged delegates at 50%.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132123 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 14:43:32 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132123 Ausman made a pretty compelling case for the DNC members (aka superdelegates) being seated at 100%. Ausman made a pretty compelling case for the DNC members (aka superdelegates) being seated at 100%.

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132121 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 14:25:30 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132121 FL challenge filed by Jon Ausman: 1. Assertion that the DP charter requires DNC members automatically be delegates and 2. Timing of primary can only result in 50% reduction in the <i>pledged</i> delegates FL challenge filed by Jon Ausman:
1. Assertion that the DP charter requires DNC members automatically be delegates and
2. Timing of primary can only result in 50% reduction in the pledged delegates

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132119 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 14:14:42 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132119 Co-chair Alexis Herman says the fundamental question is to review the committee's discretion in imposing the penalty of the loss of 100% of the delegates. Co-chair Alexis Herman says the fundamental question is to review the committee’s discretion in imposing the penalty of the loss of 100% of the delegates.

]]> By: Paulette http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132118 Paulette Sat, 31 May 2008 14:13:37 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132118 I am watching as well. You might find "FL and MI -- To seat or not to seat..." at www.letustalk.wordpress.com There has to be some punishment otherwise 2012 will be chaotic to say the least! Paulette I am watching as well. You might find “FL and MI — To seat or not to seat…” at
http://www.letustalk.wordpress.com

There has to be some punishment otherwise 2012 will be chaotic to say the least!

Paulette

]]> By: vjp http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/05/31/dnc-rules-bylaws-committee-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-132117 vjp Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:22 +0000 http://vivianpaige.wordpress.com/?p=3345#comment-132117 CNN cut to commercial but the streaming site did not. MSNBC is also not cutting to commercial. CSPAN is also covering the hearing. CNN cut to commercial but the streaming site did not. MSNBC is also not cutting to commercial. CSPAN is also covering the hearing.

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