Gilmore: “Baloney!”

10 Responses to “Gilmore: “Baloney!””

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   hahaha that’s great! Never let the facts get in the way

   Posted by ScruffyDan | Saturday, July 19, 2008, 6:04 pm
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   Vivian:
   You may be a little behind the curve on this issue, but since GWB has lifted the Presidential moratorium on off shore drilling the price of crude has plummetted nearly $20….. in days….

   Feel free to take issue with my post on this…
   http://www.spankthatdonkey.com/spankthatdonkey2/2008/7/17/mark-warners-fact-check-gets-it-wrong.html

   Governor Gilmore was exactly right, just the threat of drilling off shore had the speculators dumping those $147 oil contracts….. yeah, and I think that is too funny!

   Posted by Spank That Donkey | Saturday, July 19, 2008, 6:35 pm
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   Baloney…. This is the problem with debating right wingers. They make crap up like spank. They are the quintessential practitioners of the logical fallacy of post hoc ergo proctor hoc.

   From the AP

   Sharply increased crude and gasoline supplies were the immediate cause of Wednesday’s decline.

   The Energy Information Administration reported that U.S. crude oil supplies rose by 3 million barrels, or 1 percent, last week. That is the opposite of the 3 million barrel draw analysts surveyed by energy research firm Platts expected. Gasoline supplies also leapt unexpectedly.

   “The numbers were decidedly bearish on just about all fronts,” Ritterbusch said.

   Industry observers cautioned that prices could still bounce back, just as they have following large drops in recent weeks.

   From CNN Money

   Biggest oil price drop in 17 years
   Crude falls $6.45 a barrel – 2nd largest price drop in dollar terms – as Fed chief indicates inflation and high fuel prices will cut into U.S. demand for oil.

   From the LA Times

   l though no one would rule out an abrupt reversal like those that followed other dips in recent months, several oil analysts suggested that oil prices could continue to slide.

   Has it peaked? “The psychology is changing,” said Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research, a Winchester, Mass.-based consulting firm. “What we’re seeing right now is people starting to think that the weak economy is going to start overriding concerns about supply.”

   I could go on and on….The empty gesture by president jester had nothing to do with it. Demand is dropping due to high prices and prices are declining in response to lower demand.

   This practice is the trademark of the right wing because facts belie their simpleton world view. The world is a kaleidoscope of greys, not just black and white as they would have you think.

   I suppose Bush woke up today and the sun rose in the east, therefore bush caused the sun rising in the east today.

   Posted by Newport News Dem | Sunday, July 20, 2008, 5:40 pm
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   If Gilmore’s going to call anything that contradicts his campaign absolute “baloney,” how are we going to be able to ensure that he’s actually listening to the experts. We’ve already had to deal with Bush and all his cronies disregarding crucial facts, do we really want to elect someone else that is so blatant about not listening to the experts?

   Posted by Bryan J. Scrafford | Sunday, July 20, 2008, 7:22 pm
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   I appreciate that Spanky has so little faith in the basic intelligence of the people who trade on our commodities markets that he thinks they’re stupid enough to adjust their outlook on the market based entirely on a symbolic gesture made by the President to revoke his half of the ban on offshore drilling. Clearly the addled-minded traders with money to burn were hedging their investments earlier this month on the pessimistic outlook that the oil-man in the White House was going to stand in the way of more off-shore drilling to the tune of $20 per barrel.

   I’m sure Spanky would be an ardent supporter of reigning in oil speculating since he clearly believes the speculators aren’t even *functionally* retarded.

   Posted by anonymous | Monday, July 21, 2008, 12:42 am
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   AP, CNN and the LA Times?

   This is the problem with debating Liberals… the only sources they care to listen to is MSM sources that favor who and what? Liberal politicians and Liberal ideology.

   Case in point Waldo… he challenged us Gilmore bloggers to not debate the issues, but rather to find a MSM source that praised Jim Gilmore in 2002.

   We all know what happens to Conservative politicians that implement tax cuts into law.. they are roundly criticized for destroying govt. Gov. Gilmore is a true Conservative… you should at least acknowledge that, and if you disagree with him, debate the policies…. not whether he was roundly criticzized by Liberal MSM outlets…

   Posted by Spank That Donkey | Monday, July 21, 2008, 8:51 pm
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   Spanky, your imagination does not constitute a reasonable . . . well, a reasonable anything, as best I can tell. But c’mon, between me, Waldo, and other folks, there’s $300 dollars on offer for whomever can provide evidence of Gilmore’s budgetary successes. Qwitchyerbitchin’ and claim your prize!

   Posted by MB | Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:13 pm
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   I suppose the authoritative unbiased sources for spank to support his ridiculous proposition is NRO, Free Republic, Newsmax.

   You just continue to live in your alternate right wing universe. Regular news organizations quotes energy traders and experts, the Energy Information Administration and the Chairman of the Fed and this is some left wing jihad against poor jimmy gilmore and his right wing ideologes.

   Facts are not malleable to your prejudices and failed world view and they also will normally belie your positions, hence you make crap up. But hey, the sky really isn’t blue, it is red, I suppose.

   Posted by Newport News Dem | Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:29 am
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   Perhaps you should have included a quote from Fox News in there NND. Isn’t that a credible MSM source?

   Posted by vjp | Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:38 am
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    Vivian,

    If you ever do make it to Bath County, let me know. I’ll give you the 25 cent tour!

    Posted by Johnny Camacho | Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:37 pm