Comments on: Delisting of HL: Lefty Blogs believes in the big tent

By: The Squeaky Wheel

The Squeaky Wheel — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:27:27 +0000

Hey Spotter…. Classy… and when I say Classy I mean elitist

By: Alter of Freedom

Alter of Freedom — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:44 +0000

And this is how “discussions” go I guess. Thanks again for making my point again. There is always that new element here in modern Virginia that cares little for and about the history and traditions of the “Home of My Heart”. Thats okay we have a “big tent” here in the Commonwealth so its all good. When freedom rings it matters very little whether the sound originates on our left or our right as long as it keeps ringing. I just feel the manner in which this was handled in terms of the blog regardless of message does not ring true with our traditions. By the way , us Early American history buffs can direct you to some Revolutionary Era political satires that are far more over the top than this one so I think the debate over this one and those in publications like National Review or New Republic are rather tame historically, but I am always pretty sure I can direct folks to the ones targeting George Bush that will have those people certainly laughing. Such a political narrowness and warped reality has always been a by-product of freedom.

By: silence dogood

silence dogood — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:41:34 +0000

True, but I’m pretty sure “Freedom” wasn’t spelled that way.

By: Anon E. Mouse

Anon E. Mouse — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:40:17 +0000

Actually, it really was spelled A-L-T-E-R in Middle English.

By: spotter

spotter — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:04:10 +0000

3. “I’m.” Oops.

By: spotter

spotter — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:03:08 +0000

1. I said “please.”
2. I’m pretty sure it’s “Altar.”
3. I very sure it’s “Barack.”

By: Alter of Freedom

Alter of Freedom — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:12:03 +0000

MB…depending upon which reference you prefer regarding Lincolns famous remarks, his actually writings at Library of Congress or the historical interpretation/spelling of his words that were properly articulated in the movie Saving Private Ryan regarding Mrs. Bixby’s boys during the Civil War. The phrase also can be found throughout Virginia histories during the fight for liberty and many references in the House of Burgesses regarding Virginia joining the fight for Independence. “Altar” or “Alter” depending upon spelling and often times geography trickles through histories with the same meaning frankly referencing the sacrifices endured for freedoms sake. Hence no freedom comes without some cost to society, whether it be its citizens physical or personal sacrifice or the financial burden of sustaining such freedoms. Historically we probably still face the same questions today as our beloved Virginia did over two centuries past. Hope that clears it up. Thanks for asking MB.

By: East Bank Thom

East Bank Thom — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:21:34 +0000

Kari, President of Mandate Media and Chief Cook and Salad Spinner at BlueOregon.com, has what you might call a situational ethic. He's on the payroll of many influential Dems in Oregon (including my Governor, one of my US Senators, my Rep in Congress, My Rep in the Oregon House, my State Senator and one of my City Councilors - soon to be my Mayor). LeftyBlogs is simply an extension of the media Kari offers in service to his clients. [Officer Chisholm ]

By: Mimi Schaeffer

Mimi Schaeffer — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:08:40 +0000

It would’ve been nice for them to at least send me an e-mail…don’t cha think??

By: Dave Mastio

Dave Mastio — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:19:00 +0000

Lots and lots of whatnot all over the place.

By: MB

MB — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:48:51 +0000

You know I’ve asked this before, but I figure I’ll try again (since this thread seems to be the catchall for most anything). What, exactly, is an “Alter of Freedom”. Are we talking about something like freedom, but a little different? Or are we talking about altars, with sacrifices and whatnot?

By: Alter of Freedom

Alter of Freedom — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:30:15 +0000

Funny blah blah spotter. Thank you for proving my point. When your ever ready to step up and discuss issues and not personalities let us know maybe we can actually make some headway. Oh I forgot, your not concerned with real progress or change just the appearance of such. Everything that Barrack’s campaign has promoted regarding changing politics is lost on you apparently.

By: spotter

spotter — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:04:05 +0000

Blah, blah, blah. Now can we please get back to talking about Thelma Drake’s GED?

By: Alter of Freedom

Alter of Freedom — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:31:46 +0000

Big tent? You talk on the one hand of having a “big tent” but then focusing on “local” political blogs. I am curious just how folks are defining local these days. Its used to be “Virginia” blogs that focused on statewide issues were local. How can a race that may see a Virginian on the ticket as VP and focus on that race not be an extension of that local focus.
We are Virginians. I for one am a Virginian first long before a Dem or Rep. This delisting smokescreen will easily be demonstrated if HL revists her local focus? I mean three months of doing locally focused commentary should do the trick right? Fact is if it were merely a “local” thing HL would not be seeing her removal from other sites that are PURELY political statewide and national focused blogs. Lock step folks are follwing suit not because of the local spin but because they found HL views and ideals in direct contrast with the message and agenda the seek to facilitate upon the electorate. It is the very fact that HL has been an avid supporter of Clinton and whether one believes HL has taken it to an inappropriate level I wonder if she has lied in any manner regarding issues or was this cartoon simply HL “maccaca” moment in terms of Leftyblogs, cobalt6, raisingkaine, richmonddemocrat etc etc. I am not exactly sure what is worse, someone using satire or cartooning to make a point that one is in dissagreement with or blogs that create an aligned story to remove links in opposition to that voice. heck we all have the power over our blogs but at least be honest about it. have some real integrity and just say HL was removed because you simply do mnot like her position on things and you control the message on your blog. I do not think anyone has a problem with that but when you say you are a “community” blog I think people are left with the impression its an open all inclusive exchange of ideas arena and frankly we have learned since 2007 now that the blogoshere is not. It has become a sword by which folks will use it and fact is HL was not helping these blogs sharpen their message and HL was removed. As a Virginian its distrubing given our traditions, though many of the prominent bloggers these days care little for Virginia traditions it seems at some at every turn would have us turn into something else. Remember the piece at Raising Kaine about how Virginia is turning into Maryland? I love how people feel they have the power to tell someone what they are…to tell HL she is not a Democrat as many of these bloggers have demonstrates the lack of respect they have for not only the big tent philosophy but the foundation of the Party itself. I for one have seen this happen to many Democrats who have moved away from the Party on the State level simply because the environmental wing feels compelled to call all those who disagrree with its pillars regarding climate change as not really being true Democrats. This is no different. HL supports Clinton and the views expressed in support of Clinton, who was bashed by many of these blogs in the Primary, are contrary to the sphere of influence these blogs wish to project and that in the end is the real reason HL will not be linked in the future. Folks the tent just got smaller and if you think it is gonna stop there your kidding yourself. Try posting comments at some of these “communities” you you will find just how open which ones are and which of course are not. At least Vivian gets it done right and always has. Thankfully so. The exchange of ideas and visions is indeed a local thing but only through local cooperation can we impact the greater Commonwealth and Country.

By: Leftyblogs: Delisting had nothing to do with politics | BNN Broadcast

Leftyblogs: Delisting had nothing to do with politics | BNN Broadcast — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:16:50 +0000

[...] Update: Vivian Paige’s response [...]

By: spotter

spotter — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:31:39 +0000

Good, now we can go back to ignoring HL and wondering whether Obama is old enough to be president.

By: Mark Brooks

Mark Brooks — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:07:26 +0000

Good job on this mystery, Vivian.

Although I do not feel her behavior is progressive, I am willing to cede that we all get off the track sometimes. I am certainly no different.

By: The Squeaky Wheel

The Squeaky Wheel — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:27:56 +0000

Dear Kari Chisholm,

BULLSH*T

Love,
The Squeaky Wheel

By: virginiadem

virginiadem — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:30:51 +0000

Perhaps Kari’s email to you explains why virginiadem.org has never been picked up by Lefty Blogs, despite repeated attempts to have it listed.

By: MB

MB — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:31:19 +0000

Credit to both of you.