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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-141251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Missed this over the weekend.  The it&#039;s-the-minorities&#039;-fault! approach has jumped &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9O1hpeO-qQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;from TV&lt;/a&gt; into &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/27/cbc-bachmann/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Congress&lt;/a&gt;.  Nicely done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missed this over the weekend.  The it&#8217;s-the-minorities&#8217;-fault! approach has jumped <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9O1hpeO-qQ" rel="nofollow">from TV</a> into <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/27/cbc-bachmann/" rel="nofollow">Congress</a>.  Nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is saying all of this, exactly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is saying all of this, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vjp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rlewis - we don&#039;t do name-calling around here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rlewis &#8211; we don&#8217;t do name-calling around here.</p>
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		<title>By: rlewis</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rlewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh BM, you have yet again made a poor rebuttal.  Don has clearly made the point correctly.  How long did it take you to google something to link? you pompous jackass!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh BM, you have yet again made a poor rebuttal.  Don has clearly made the point correctly.  How long did it take you to google something to link? you pompous jackass!</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDQzYjA4ZWYyZDYyNjY0ODZjZmE1NzRkMWI3MWZiZGU=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More&lt;/a&gt; from the &quot;minorities caused it all!&quot; pages.

(don&#039;t worry, some of their best friends/clients/neighbors are minorities)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDQzYjA4ZWYyZDYyNjY0ODZjZmE1NzRkMWI3MWZiZGU=" rel="nofollow">More</a> from the &#8220;minorities caused it all!&#8221; pages.</p>
<p>(don&#8217;t worry, some of their best friends/clients/neighbors are minorities)</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don, you&#039;re a better contortionist than those 14 year old Chinese Olympic gymnasts.  Confronted with a failure, you choose to pin the blame on everyone except for the actors with the most information, freedom, and ability to make the right choice.

Next up: Don Tabor blame the homeless dude who died in fire AND the government because the homeless guy was trying to stay warm with a poorly constructed space-heater that was only made that way because the government didn&#039;t impose the right regulations on the manufacturer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, you&#8217;re a better contortionist than those 14 year old Chinese Olympic gymnasts.  Confronted with a failure, you choose to pin the blame on everyone except for the actors with the most information, freedom, and ability to make the right choice.</p>
<p>Next up: Don Tabor blame the homeless dude who died in fire AND the government because the homeless guy was trying to stay warm with a poorly constructed space-heater that was only made that way because the government didn&#8217;t impose the right regulations on the manufacturer.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Tabor</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Tabor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MB - Your link confirms my point.

When a mortgage broker &#039;helps&#039; a person in an unstable neighborhood get a &#039;no money down&#039; variable rate mortgage they really can&#039;t afford to pay when interest rates go up, and housing prices drop below the balance owed, who gets hurt? 

Not the broker, he sold the loan to Fannie Mae. 

Not the investors, the government implicitly guaranteed Fannie Mae investments from the beginning. 

But the guy who was &#039;helped&#039; to get the loan now has a house he can&#039;t sell for what he owes, a note he can&#039;t pay, and he will be bankrupted and lose not just the house, but any other savings or assets he had accumulated before taking the bait.

Had government not interfered in the marketplace, that guy would have been renting and maybe putting aside some money toward his retirement or to put money down on a house he could afford with a fixed rate and enough equity on day one to be able to sell out if he had too.

As Henry D Thoreau put it, the most frightening thing he could imagine was to learn that someone from the government was coming to help him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB &#8211; Your link confirms my point.</p>
<p>When a mortgage broker &#8216;helps&#8217; a person in an unstable neighborhood get a &#8216;no money down&#8217; variable rate mortgage they really can&#8217;t afford to pay when interest rates go up, and housing prices drop below the balance owed, who gets hurt? </p>
<p>Not the broker, he sold the loan to Fannie Mae. </p>
<p>Not the investors, the government implicitly guaranteed Fannie Mae investments from the beginning. </p>
<p>But the guy who was &#8216;helped&#8217; to get the loan now has a house he can&#8217;t sell for what he owes, a note he can&#8217;t pay, and he will be bankrupted and lose not just the house, but any other savings or assets he had accumulated before taking the bait.</p>
<p>Had government not interfered in the marketplace, that guy would have been renting and maybe putting aside some money toward his retirement or to put money down on a house he could afford with a fixed rate and enough equity on day one to be able to sell out if he had too.</p>
<p>As Henry D Thoreau put it, the most frightening thing he could imagine was to learn that someone from the government was coming to help him.</p>
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		<title>By: WeHear</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WeHear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for giving people something to truly THINK about.  CROOKS can also wear neckties.  Crimes against humanity can happen in America without a single shot being fired.  That&#039;s why America needs to follow the MONEY Trail of this crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for giving people something to truly THINK about.  CROOKS can also wear neckties.  Crimes against humanity can happen in America without a single shot being fired.  That&#8217;s why America needs to follow the MONEY Trail of this crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I was just coming here to explain the CRA=black people! code that would help those of us without secret decoder rings understand it.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=did_liberals_cause_the_subprime_crisis&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This link&lt;/a&gt; takes apart Don&#039;s regurgitated &lt;a href=&quot;http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2008/02/bullshit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bullsh!t&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I was just coming here to explain the CRA=black people! code that would help those of us without secret decoder rings understand it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=did_liberals_cause_the_subprime_crisis" rel="nofollow">This link</a> takes apart Don&#8217;s regurgitated <a href="http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2008/02/bullshit/" rel="nofollow">bullsh!t</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Tabor</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Tabor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course it was not the fault of the poor and minority populations who took advantage of the offer of free money with which to buy a house. 

It was the fault of the political hacks who coerced banks into making those loans and who created Fannie and Freddie with such regulatory advantages that other lenders could not compete unless they went along with the sub-prime formula. 

Those hacks would be Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and the Community Organizers of Acorn who exploited the Community Reinvestment Act to extort banks to offer those mortgage snares with which to trap  both lenders and borrowers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it was not the fault of the poor and minority populations who took advantage of the offer of free money with which to buy a house. </p>
<p>It was the fault of the political hacks who coerced banks into making those loans and who created Fannie and Freddie with such regulatory advantages that other lenders could not compete unless they went along with the sub-prime formula. </p>
<p>Those hacks would be Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and the Community Organizers of Acorn who exploited the Community Reinvestment Act to extort banks to offer those mortgage snares with which to trap  both lenders and borrowers.</p>
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		<title>By: rlewis</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rlewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;No one is talking about the banks which wanted the regulations tossed out the window so they could profit off making bad loans….d’uh.&quot;

You have got to be kidding me! That is all they have been talking.  I have yet to hear anyone blame this situation on the poor and members of minority populations.  God job on trying to place the race card.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No one is talking about the banks which wanted the regulations tossed out the window so they could profit off making bad loans….d’uh.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have got to be kidding me! That is all they have been talking.  I have yet to hear anyone blame this situation on the poor and members of minority populations.  God job on trying to place the race card.</p>
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		<title>By: mosquito</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mosquito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You Rock!!

No one is talking about the banks which wanted the regulations tossed out the window so they could profit off making bad loans....d&#039;uh.

buzz...buzz....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Rock!!</p>
<p>No one is talking about the banks which wanted the regulations tossed out the window so they could profit off making bad loans&#8230;.d&#8217;uh.</p>
<p>buzz&#8230;buzz&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2008/09/26/the-big-lie-again/comment-page-1/#comment-140952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dead on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead on.</p>
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