She mentioned it at a few events I happened to be at, Brian, but I acknowledge that she didn’t go quite so far as the Sessoms folks did with their illegal flier.

I respect your (Vivian’s) opinion. While I am sure I probably vehemently disagree with her on some subjects (which I will not go into here) I do not object to listening to her opinion on anything.

Sockpuppet? Is that what it is called? How about someone who chooses to post to gain favor with the blog administrator. Now what is that called?

As for my knowing little I will note that voters in my district voted time and again for change.

From Republican to Democrat in the Presidential race.

From Republican to Democrat in the Senatorial race.

From Republican to Democrat (against an incumbent no less) in the House race.

In the Mayoral race from supposedly none partisan incumbent to supposedly none partisan challenger.

See a trend here? Please factor in that new voters were hungry for change. Would their appetite be less for change in local elections?

Didn’t see it in her print ads. Didn’t see it in her lit pieces. I know she mentioned it in a radio ad, but that doesn’t exactly meet the threshold of running hard as a Democrat.

Meyera’s base likely knew, but November voters who never voted in May?

Heck, the only time Meyera ran in a partisan race, she did so as a Republican for State Senate.

I just wanted to pop in and point out for the benefit of people who apparently don’t read the newspaper that not only did Meyera run as a Democrat, she ran so hard as a Democrat that the Virginian Pilot published a scathing editorial that basically said, Hey, Meyera, stop being such a blankity-blank Democrat. Linky: http://hamptonroads.com/2008/10/beach-mayor-forgets-nonpartisan-pledge

Also: http://hamptonroads.com/2008/11/beach-mayoral-race-has-more-partisan-tone-november

I think you need to realize that these matters are taken seriously here, and suffer those who don’t or won’t listen and learn.

At this point, it would be good for you to talk about facts, rather than try to speculate on politics in an area where you know little.

I am sure you have been making a case for illegal campaign activities here, and if that is the case, I agree.

Also, the question crops up again about the lack of party ID on State races. We will be going through this again this year.

I would back off of implying that she plays sockpuppet on her own blog, though. You might disagree with her politics, but you (and anyone else, really) have zero standing to attack her integrity. Anyway, as my comment right here shows, she’s got plenty of folks who think highly of her and won’t hesitate to say it. She doesn’t need to sockpuppet.

If I did not know better, I would think that last post came from Vivian herself.

Keep up the good work, Vivian. Light is the best disinfectant.

Oh, your arguments are furthered by throwing insults. Perhaps my opinion of you was unwarranted.

Feel free to throw insults in your attempt to convince people. You seem to be quite good at it.

Maybe I am just thin skinned myself. But I have a problem with comments about my naivete and how annoying I am.

Did you miss my earlier comment about the Democratic sample ballot and the fact that Meyera’s name was on it? Has it not yet sunk in that the Nye/Drake race – which you continually try to bring into the conversation – had NOTHING to do with this? Why are you ignoring the fact that Meyera has consistently identified herself as a Democrat?

Your naivete was at first charming. Now it’s just annoying.

Oh – and if you think I’m grasping at straws, just wait for the announcement from the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office.

You’re actually helping me make one of my points.

If the Glenn Nye/Thelma Drake race was unaffected (only because it was not attempted) perhaps the reason these precincts supported Glenn Nye was through party identification?

But if Meyera lost in these precincts perhaps it was because she failed to communicate in these precincts. Perhaps with party identification she would have won.

Absent party identification, the voters might have been left adrift on who to vote for. What did Meyera ever do for the precints in question that would have won their unquestioned support? What steps did she take to communicate to them? She had been at the helm forever. If she could not point out anything?

LD – I gave you the link to the figures that I’m using in the original post. It’s on the VB Registrar’s website.

What you don’t understand is that the fliers HAD NO EFFECT on the Nye/Drake race. So it is pointless to look at those figures.

The other thing is that you cannot eliminate the downticket races precisely because they are the control totals!

And yes, fliers were distributed in Aragona.

You evidently know how to get at the figures better then I.

Eliminate the down ticket figures. Where did the votes go for those precincts affected in the Glenn Nye/Thelma Drake race?

In support of my question I will point out how in Aragona (which I assume was not a flier precinct) Obama beat McCain by 414 votes but Oberndorf beat Sessoms by a mere 14 votes.