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		<title>By: Jason Rylander</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150379</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Rylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Britt, 
I have to say to paint Brian as the greenest candidate in the race, (recall the League of Conservation Voters endorsed Terry) and blame his race on what is at best a debatable gradation of green vis-a-vis three good candidates on environmental issues is ridiculous. The last thing we need is to have environmental issues blamed for a candidate&#039;s loss when there isn&#039;t a scintilla of evidence to support that. Brian didn&#039;t even win Arlington. Environmental issues had nothing to do with his defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britt,<br />
I have to say to paint Brian as the greenest candidate in the race, (recall the League of Conservation Voters endorsed Terry) and blame his race on what is at best a debatable gradation of green vis-a-vis three good candidates on environmental issues is ridiculous. The last thing we need is to have environmental issues blamed for a candidate&#8217;s loss when there isn&#8217;t a scintilla of evidence to support that. Brian didn&#8217;t even win Arlington. Environmental issues had nothing to do with his defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita McKernan</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150304</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita McKernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please &quot;pointing fingers, throwing arguments into the mix is Republicans do - not Democrats&quot;! I don&#039;t know how long you have been involved in politics but that is one of the most naive statements I ever heard.
There are plenty of states that have closed Primaries that work - Democratic voters only for the Democratic Candidates and visa versa for the Republicans or Independents. 
Yes Brian lost because he was doing the dirty work that the winner couldn&#039;t bring himself to do.
At this point in tim Deeds is really going have to work to get my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please &#8220;pointing fingers, throwing arguments into the mix is Republicans do &#8211; not Democrats&#8221;! I don&#8217;t know how long you have been involved in politics but that is one of the most naive statements I ever heard.<br />
There are plenty of states that have closed Primaries that work &#8211; Democratic voters only for the Democratic Candidates and visa versa for the Republicans or Independents.<br />
Yes Brian lost because he was doing the dirty work that the winner couldn&#8217;t bring himself to do.<br />
At this point in tim Deeds is really going have to work to get my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: snolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150300</link>
		<dc:creator>snolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phone banking plagued my phone non-stop for the last three nights before the Primary.  I started answering the phone &quot;Deeds for Virgina, Scott Nolan speaking.&quot; just to shorten the inevitable calls from Moran and T-Mac supporters...  I also stopped taking calls from numbers I did not recognize.

It is great to get a reminder call... but when you get dozens, something is very wrong with the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phone banking plagued my phone non-stop for the last three nights before the Primary.  I started answering the phone &#8220;Deeds for Virgina, Scott Nolan speaking.&#8221; just to shorten the inevitable calls from Moran and T-Mac supporters&#8230;  I also stopped taking calls from numbers I did not recognize.</p>
<p>It is great to get a reminder call&#8230; but when you get dozens, something is very wrong with the system.</p>
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		<title>By: rlewis</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150287</link>
		<dc:creator>rlewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Northam&#039;s endorsement of Deeds didn&#039;t help Moran either, especially in the Hampton Roads/Eastern Shore territory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Northam&#8217;s endorsement of Deeds didn&#8217;t help Moran either, especially in the Hampton Roads/Eastern Shore territory</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150283</link>
		<dc:creator>vjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone referred to the negativity as a murder-suicide. I think that is an apt description.

And yes, the list is long of campaigns robbed by the Consultant Class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone referred to the negativity as a murder-suicide. I think that is an apt description.</p>
<p>And yes, the list is long of campaigns robbed by the Consultant Class.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150281</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivian,
I think you analysis re the negativity of the Moran campaign is spot on. In a three-way race, negative attacks usually hurt the candidate they were directed at AND the candidate who levels them. I think that was the case in this race. I also think Brian&#039;s campaign was extremely poorly run, starting with letting the Democratic Consultant Class rob him blind. It&#039;s not the first Democratic campaign to run aground  because of this.
I too think Brian has a bright political future in Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivian,<br />
I think you analysis re the negativity of the Moran campaign is spot on. In a three-way race, negative attacks usually hurt the candidate they were directed at AND the candidate who levels them. I think that was the case in this race. I also think Brian&#8217;s campaign was extremely poorly run, starting with letting the Democratic Consultant Class rob him blind. It&#8217;s not the first Democratic campaign to run aground  because of this.<br />
I too think Brian has a bright political future in Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150278</link>
		<dc:creator>vjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alma - Wright supported &lt;strong&gt;McAuliffe&lt;/strong&gt;, not Moran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alma &#8211; Wright supported <strong>McAuliffe</strong>, not Moran.</p>
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		<title>By: alma kesling</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150276</link>
		<dc:creator>alma kesling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t vote for Moran. I wouldn&#039;t vote for anyone Randy Wright likes. Jeez! As for closed Primaries and that MOST Virginians are Independents, where do you get your figures. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s anywhere near the truth. I&#039;ve yet to actually meet an Independent living in Virginia. I do not think it&#039;s fair, though, when Republicans have no primary, that they are allowed to vote in the Democrat Primary. I stay out of Republican politics when we have no primary. It&#039;s just not right to influence the party I&#039;m not a member of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t vote for Moran. I wouldn&#8217;t vote for anyone Randy Wright likes. Jeez! As for closed Primaries and that MOST Virginians are Independents, where do you get your figures. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s anywhere near the truth. I&#8217;ve yet to actually meet an Independent living in Virginia. I do not think it&#8217;s fair, though, when Republicans have no primary, that they are allowed to vote in the Democrat Primary. I stay out of Republican politics when we have no primary. It&#8217;s just not right to influence the party I&#8217;m not a member of.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody Thord</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150274</link>
		<dc:creator>Melody Thord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want &quot;closed&quot; primaries, then the political parties can pay for the primaries and leave the taxpayers alone.  For some odd reason, our primary system has worked wonderfully for Virginia.  

An additional reason for the &quot;open&quot; primaries, is that the bulk of voters in Virginia are INDEPENDENTS and not affiliated or members of any political party.  Virginia counts, depending on whom you believe, 40-50% of voters as &quot;non-party affiliate&quot;.  Do you really want to shut these people out?  If you have a closed primary, you are going to have ideologues picking the candidates, and become, much as the Republican party of Virginia has become, full of self important, self consumed party people who are more concerned with party nonsense than what is good for Virginia.  The recent public infighting with Jeff Frederick being but one example.  

Lets face with it, with few exceptions, only people who are intently interested in politics vote in primaries.  Its been shown, time and again, that only a very small percentage of party crossover trouble makers bother to go to the polls.  It they did, Hillary would have been the Presidential candidate instead of Obama.  You will recall that Rush and Hannity was frothing at the mouth over sending republicans to vote for Hillary.  Didn&#039;t work then.  

The specious argument that party crossover votes upset election results in open primaries has been proven to be wrong many times!  

Your guy lost.  Get over it and support the candidate that clearly Democrats and Independents chose!  

Deeds will smear McDonnell, for many reasons.  Not the least of which is the nasty party infighting in the Republican party where McDonnell chose sides in throwing Jeff Frederick out, thus alienating the grassroots, poll workers, door-to-door, worker folks in the party. 

Making excuses, pointing fingers, throwing arguments into the mix is what the Republicans do, not the Democrats!  Let them stew in the soup of their own making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want &#8220;closed&#8221; primaries, then the political parties can pay for the primaries and leave the taxpayers alone.  For some odd reason, our primary system has worked wonderfully for Virginia.  </p>
<p>An additional reason for the &#8220;open&#8221; primaries, is that the bulk of voters in Virginia are INDEPENDENTS and not affiliated or members of any political party.  Virginia counts, depending on whom you believe, 40-50% of voters as &#8220;non-party affiliate&#8221;.  Do you really want to shut these people out?  If you have a closed primary, you are going to have ideologues picking the candidates, and become, much as the Republican party of Virginia has become, full of self important, self consumed party people who are more concerned with party nonsense than what is good for Virginia.  The recent public infighting with Jeff Frederick being but one example.  </p>
<p>Lets face with it, with few exceptions, only people who are intently interested in politics vote in primaries.  Its been shown, time and again, that only a very small percentage of party crossover trouble makers bother to go to the polls.  It they did, Hillary would have been the Presidential candidate instead of Obama.  You will recall that Rush and Hannity was frothing at the mouth over sending republicans to vote for Hillary.  Didn&#8217;t work then.  </p>
<p>The specious argument that party crossover votes upset election results in open primaries has been proven to be wrong many times!  </p>
<p>Your guy lost.  Get over it and support the candidate that clearly Democrats and Independents chose!  </p>
<p>Deeds will smear McDonnell, for many reasons.  Not the least of which is the nasty party infighting in the Republican party where McDonnell chose sides in throwing Jeff Frederick out, thus alienating the grassroots, poll workers, door-to-door, worker folks in the party. </p>
<p>Making excuses, pointing fingers, throwing arguments into the mix is what the Republicans do, not the Democrats!  Let them stew in the soup of their own making.</p>
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		<title>By: alma kesling</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150273</link>
		<dc:creator>alma kesling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is, until just a few years ago, there were no surprises. Polls were correct, for the most part. People shouldn&#039;t be THIS surprised, and I tell you, when I saw Deeds had won and at FIFTY percent, you could&#039;ve knocked me over with a feather. Verification is needed in all elections, just so people know the outcome was what it should&#039;ve been, because I surely do not feel good about this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is, until just a few years ago, there were no surprises. Polls were correct, for the most part. People shouldn&#8217;t be THIS surprised, and I tell you, when I saw Deeds had won and at FIFTY percent, you could&#8217;ve knocked me over with a feather. Verification is needed in all elections, just so people know the outcome was what it should&#8217;ve been, because I surely do not feel good about this one.</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150271</link>
		<dc:creator>vjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, you are mistaken. Wright endorsed &lt;strong&gt;McAuliffe&lt;/strong&gt;, not Moran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, you are mistaken. Wright endorsed <strong>McAuliffe</strong>, not Moran.</p>
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		<title>By: eileen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150270</link>
		<dc:creator>eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Randy Wright endorsed T-Mac?</description>
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		<title>By: Anon E. Mouse</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150269</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon E. Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have open primaries so that, even if the state is dominated by one party (as it was for 100 years after &quot;The War of Northern Aggression&quot;), everyone has a say in their representatives.

Look at the Arlington primary.  Everyone knows that is the &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; election.  The democratic candidate could be revealed to be having sex with underage boys (&lt;i&gt;a la&lt;/i&gt; Barney Frank) and he will still be elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have open primaries so that, even if the state is dominated by one party (as it was for 100 years after &#8220;The War of Northern Aggression&#8221;), everyone has a say in their representatives.</p>
<p>Look at the Arlington primary.  Everyone knows that is the <i>real</i> election.  The democratic candidate could be revealed to be having sex with underage boys (<i>a la</i> Barney Frank) and he will still be elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita McKernan</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150264</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita McKernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I question why Virginia has a &quot;open&quot; Primary? allowing non Democrats to help make the choice of who is going to be on the ballot. 
If the State Democrats had a convention like the Republicans did; the work horse of the party most likely would have won - Brian Moran. 
Too much money is spent during these Primaries - there should be a cap on donations; let alone the millions of dollars of tax payer money spent on opening the polls, again and again this year alone.
Things happen for a reason - it was&#039;nt meant to be; at least this go around.
I see that this campaign brought about a good change in Brian Moran the person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question why Virginia has a &#8220;open&#8221; Primary? allowing non Democrats to help make the choice of who is going to be on the ballot.<br />
If the State Democrats had a convention like the Republicans did; the work horse of the party most likely would have won &#8211; Brian Moran.<br />
Too much money is spent during these Primaries &#8211; there should be a cap on donations; let alone the millions of dollars of tax payer money spent on opening the polls, again and again this year alone.<br />
Things happen for a reason &#8211; it was&#8217;nt meant to be; at least this go around.<br />
I see that this campaign brought about a good change in Brian Moran the person.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Cohen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150251</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you hit it Vivian.  But I really don&#039;t think Randy Wright&#039;s endorsement of Moran made much difference.  Moran got a lot of endorsements from local leaders.  I think voters were just turned off by his attacks.  His TV commercials and the jabs at the debate were directed towards McAuliffe.  He could have done a lot better in the primary if he focused on the issues.  This article explains a new well-read voter&#039;s perspective on this primary : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/my-blue-collar-husband-an_b_212243.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you hit it Vivian.  But I really don&#8217;t think Randy Wright&#8217;s endorsement of Moran made much difference.  Moran got a lot of endorsements from local leaders.  I think voters were just turned off by his attacks.  His TV commercials and the jabs at the debate were directed towards McAuliffe.  He could have done a lot better in the primary if he focused on the issues.  This article explains a new well-read voter&#8217;s perspective on this primary : <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/my-blue-collar-husband-an_b_212243.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/my-blue-collar-husband-an_b_212243.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: not glenn croshaw</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150246</link>
		<dc:creator>not glenn croshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis</description>
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		<title>By: ValerieInRke</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150242</link>
		<dc:creator>ValerieInRke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deed&#039;s stepped back while Moran and McAuliffe slugged it out in Blacksburg debate - just check this video. This was a clue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXh0Mf4FQs0&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etheroanokefreepress%2Ecom%2F%3Fp%3D2639&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deed&#8217;s stepped back while Moran and McAuliffe slugged it out in Blacksburg debate &#8211; just check this video. This was a clue: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXh0Mf4FQs0&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etheroanokefreepress%2Ecom%2F%3Fp%3D2639&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXh0Mf4FQs0&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etheroanokefreepress%2Ecom%2F%3Fp%3D2639&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: silver donkey</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150239</link>
		<dc:creator>silver donkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you love when folks uninvolved start pointing fingers at other people who were involved in the campaign.  (Bob)  I am sure you don&#039;t know the whole story and never will, just make rash judgements on people.  That is so typical of the press!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you love when folks uninvolved start pointing fingers at other people who were involved in the campaign.  (Bob)  I am sure you don&#8217;t know the whole story and never will, just make rash judgements on people.  That is so typical of the press!</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2009/06/11/what-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-150236</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Moran and McAuliffe pummel each other and Deeds step back was very interesting. They did the dirty work for him while he saved his momentum to shine above the sparring children when the time was right. With limited resources and having been out funded by both adversaries, the fact that Deeds still won, says positive things about him.

Paying too much money and attention to consultants isn&#039;t just bad for Moran&#039;s campaign, it is bad in everyday life. Public money is continually wasted on consultants. Don&#039;t get me wrong, some consultants are worth what they bring to the table. 

If Criegh Deeds waged a great campaign with fewer resources, he must have something to offer in the office of governor. Decisions are made in office on budgets and strategic planning, right? 

Conservation, energy development, and alternatives sell even to conservatives. What doesn&#039;t sell is all the  hyper &quot;Green&quot; stuff that throws the baby out with the bath water. Sure, super green sells to a hardworking important group on the Democrat side, but trust me, Moran was &quot;Green&quot; to the point of being scary. Expecting such rapid &quot;Greening&quot; is like expecting to go through medical school in a week. Trying is going to mean extreme pain then disappointing results.

Howard Dean and Terry McAuliffe.....running for a state or local office will be difficult after the DNC stint. I&#039;m not sure Tim Kaine made a wise move. The position leaves its stain on you. 

All that said, I&#039;m thankful that Terry McAuliffe was unable to buy the election. That&#039;s a reason for hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Moran and McAuliffe pummel each other and Deeds step back was very interesting. They did the dirty work for him while he saved his momentum to shine above the sparring children when the time was right. With limited resources and having been out funded by both adversaries, the fact that Deeds still won, says positive things about him.</p>
<p>Paying too much money and attention to consultants isn&#8217;t just bad for Moran&#8217;s campaign, it is bad in everyday life. Public money is continually wasted on consultants. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, some consultants are worth what they bring to the table. </p>
<p>If Criegh Deeds waged a great campaign with fewer resources, he must have something to offer in the office of governor. Decisions are made in office on budgets and strategic planning, right? </p>
<p>Conservation, energy development, and alternatives sell even to conservatives. What doesn&#8217;t sell is all the  hyper &#8220;Green&#8221; stuff that throws the baby out with the bath water. Sure, super green sells to a hardworking important group on the Democrat side, but trust me, Moran was &#8220;Green&#8221; to the point of being scary. Expecting such rapid &#8220;Greening&#8221; is like expecting to go through medical school in a week. Trying is going to mean extreme pain then disappointing results.</p>
<p>Howard Dean and Terry McAuliffe&#8230;..running for a state or local office will be difficult after the DNC stint. I&#8217;m not sure Tim Kaine made a wise move. The position leaves its stain on you. </p>
<p>All that said, I&#8217;m thankful that Terry McAuliffe was unable to buy the election. That&#8217;s a reason for hope.</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there was anything hinky in the numbers. But I was certainly surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there was anything hinky in the numbers. But I was certainly surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the spending and I think you&#039;ll be surprised. As for that campaign consultant - I suspect I know who you are referring to and I can tell you, that was not the case.

I think you are on to something about campaign design: there has to be a campaign plan and while it shouldn&#039;t be engraved in stone, it should serve as a guide for what the campaign wants to accomplish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the spending and I think you&#8217;ll be surprised. As for that campaign consultant &#8211; I suspect I know who you are referring to and I can tell you, that was not the case.</p>
<p>I think you are on to something about campaign design: there has to be a campaign plan and while it shouldn&#8217;t be engraved in stone, it should serve as a guide for what the campaign wants to accomplish.</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I believe Brian&#039;s future is bright. I just got off the phone with him and encouraged him about this.

You raise a good point about too many cooks - my own experience was too many Chiefs and not enough Indians. (Sorry - I know that isn&#039;t politically correct.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I believe Brian&#8217;s future is bright. I just got off the phone with him and encouraged him about this.</p>
<p>You raise a good point about too many cooks &#8211; my own experience was too many Chiefs and not enough Indians. (Sorry &#8211; I know that isn&#8217;t politically correct.)</p>
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		<title>By: vjp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is certainly a difference in the regions. We just don&#039;t have the voters that NoVA has, and the candidates are wise to spend their money there. I got two mail pieces from Bowerbank and 1 from Signer but none from Jody. 

And I saw no evidence of exit polls down here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is certainly a difference in the regions. We just don&#8217;t have the voters that NoVA has, and the candidates are wise to spend their money there. I got two mail pieces from Bowerbank and 1 from Signer but none from Jody. </p>
<p>And I saw no evidence of exit polls down here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Griendling</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivian,

Nice analysis, and thanks fo the kind comment.

I think Deeds election was a pragmatic choice among voters, though I certainly think you&#039;re on to something vis-a-vis Moran&#039;s use of his ad $.

Re the use of consultants, I haven&#039;t look at how much he spent.  But I know he had at least one consultant that seemed to be no more than a payoff to keep his endorsement.  On the other hand, I&#039;ve often thought that candidates need to think more streategically when designing a campaign, and not put all their $$ into mail and TV ads.  They need to think about how they can -- over the course of a campaign -- deliver a message of leadership and thoughfulness on issues.

I think doing so might also help generate media coverage, as someone who thinks about the issues, take stands and isn&#039;t afraid to challenge the conventioanl wisdom would generate media interest.  Even if that&#039;s limited, holding forums and other events that are less structured can over time generate votes.

Most of the time, they are afraid to, however, in the age of opponents video taping their every move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivian,</p>
<p>Nice analysis, and thanks fo the kind comment.</p>
<p>I think Deeds election was a pragmatic choice among voters, though I certainly think you&#8217;re on to something vis-a-vis Moran&#8217;s use of his ad $.</p>
<p>Re the use of consultants, I haven&#8217;t look at how much he spent.  But I know he had at least one consultant that seemed to be no more than a payoff to keep his endorsement.  On the other hand, I&#8217;ve often thought that candidates need to think more streategically when designing a campaign, and not put all their $$ into mail and TV ads.  They need to think about how they can &#8212; over the course of a campaign &#8212; deliver a message of leadership and thoughfulness on issues.</p>
<p>I think doing so might also help generate media coverage, as someone who thinks about the issues, take stands and isn&#8217;t afraid to challenge the conventioanl wisdom would generate media interest.  Even if that&#8217;s limited, holding forums and other events that are less structured can over time generate votes.</p>
<p>Most of the time, they are afraid to, however, in the age of opponents video taping their every move.</p>
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		<title>By: alma kesling</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add that I&#039;m no longer tolerant of folks calling or coming to my door who are from outside the state, especially for state or local elections. If you can&#039;t support the locals by hiring them, you do not get my support in the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add that I&#8217;m no longer tolerant of folks calling or coming to my door who are from outside the state, especially for state or local elections. If you can&#8217;t support the locals by hiring them, you do not get my support in the election.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita McKernan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita McKernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you regarding the bad advice Brian was getting regarding those consultants that he hired. Brian should have changee things if they were not working.  Deeds made the hard choice; knew he had to make changes he layed off staff and was able to buy commercial time and thanks to the Washington Post endorsement. The money must have started to flow in because the next day the lawn signs were up all over NOVA with the endorsement listed on top of the signs.
Brian was warned that this what Deeds supporters were just waiting to happen but the consultants were too busy fighting TMc and just let the door open for Deeds.
The campaign organization was just not there - it seemed like there were too many cooks in the kitchen.
If donors knew that 50% of their money was being paid out to staff I&#039;m sure they would have rethought the donations.
This was a hard/expensive lesson for the former Team Moran.  
Let the dust settle a little and we&#039;ll see a bright future ahead for Brian - just not as Governor this November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you regarding the bad advice Brian was getting regarding those consultants that he hired. Brian should have changee things if they were not working.  Deeds made the hard choice; knew he had to make changes he layed off staff and was able to buy commercial time and thanks to the Washington Post endorsement. The money must have started to flow in because the next day the lawn signs were up all over NOVA with the endorsement listed on top of the signs.<br />
Brian was warned that this what Deeds supporters were just waiting to happen but the consultants were too busy fighting TMc and just let the door open for Deeds.<br />
The campaign organization was just not there &#8211; it seemed like there were too many cooks in the kitchen.<br />
If donors knew that 50% of their money was being paid out to staff I&#8217;m sure they would have rethought the donations.<br />
This was a hard/expensive lesson for the former Team Moran.<br />
Let the dust settle a little and we&#8217;ll see a bright future ahead for Brian &#8211; just not as Governor this November.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Is A Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Is A Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good analysis, Vivian.  Your region, though, had some differnces from NoVa.  For example, I received multiple mailings from McAuliffe and Deeds, and even some from Moran.  We also had far less of Deeds on TV until late in the campaign and nothing from Moran in our very expensive media market.  We actually didn&#039;t get many McAuliffe ads until near the end of the campaign either.  We did get lots of the Common Sense Virginia ads, though.

FWIW, I also kept pleading with members of Moran&#039;s campaign staff to be more positive.  I once told Brian directly that he should start listening to certain people, rather than others (I won&#039;t mention names here).  Like you, I found it was to no avail.

And I think you are spot on about the choices he made with spending his money.  Too many high priced consultants, who gave him bad advice to boot, and not enough money saved to reach voters, especially in the final weeks. In fact, there were barely even any Moran signs up in Brian&#039;s home district on the eve and day of the election.

All in all, it was a very sad loss.  But I do believe, at least, in NoVa a lot of otherwise liberal voters made a pragmatic decision in voting for Creigh.  I based that on exit interviews I saw on TV, where voters were saying that they strongly considered who would run best in other areas of the commonwealth.  Of course, it might have been different in your neck of the woods.

Anyway, thanks for the great analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good analysis, Vivian.  Your region, though, had some differnces from NoVa.  For example, I received multiple mailings from McAuliffe and Deeds, and even some from Moran.  We also had far less of Deeds on TV until late in the campaign and nothing from Moran in our very expensive media market.  We actually didn&#8217;t get many McAuliffe ads until near the end of the campaign either.  We did get lots of the Common Sense Virginia ads, though.</p>
<p>FWIW, I also kept pleading with members of Moran&#8217;s campaign staff to be more positive.  I once told Brian directly that he should start listening to certain people, rather than others (I won&#8217;t mention names here).  Like you, I found it was to no avail.</p>
<p>And I think you are spot on about the choices he made with spending his money.  Too many high priced consultants, who gave him bad advice to boot, and not enough money saved to reach voters, especially in the final weeks. In fact, there were barely even any Moran signs up in Brian&#8217;s home district on the eve and day of the election.</p>
<p>All in all, it was a very sad loss.  But I do believe, at least, in NoVa a lot of otherwise liberal voters made a pragmatic decision in voting for Creigh.  I based that on exit interviews I saw on TV, where voters were saying that they strongly considered who would run best in other areas of the commonwealth.  Of course, it might have been different in your neck of the woods.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the great analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: alma kesling</title>
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		<dc:creator>alma kesling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, was SHOCKED, Deeds received 50% of the vote. Seriously, it&#039;s so shocking I&#039;m thinking of stepping up my involvement with Virginia Verified Voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, was SHOCKED, Deeds received 50% of the vote. Seriously, it&#8217;s so shocking I&#8217;m thinking of stepping up my involvement with Virginia Verified Voting.</p>
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