There’s always one

Posted by Vivian J. Paige ⋅ Wednesday, September 9, 2009 ⋅ 22 Comments

Rep. Wilson the congressional heckler.

Bad apple, that is. Tonight it was Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC). Is there something in the water down there? Jeez!

How many times during the Bush years did we hear that we should respect the office? Seems someone should give Wilson a few pointers.

During President Obama’s speech tonight, Wilson yelled out “you lie” after the president said no health care funds would be spent on illegal immigrants. Fellow Republican John McCain called Wilson’s outburst “totally disrespectful” and said he should apologize.

I understand you can’t get through to the Congressman’s office. His line is busy. It wouldn’t be because of the tweets of his office phone number, right? Nah!

Image from CNN Political Ticker

UPDATE: Wilson apologizes

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Discussion

22 Responses to “There’s always one”

“How many times during the Bush years did we hear that we should respect the office? “

And how many times did Democrats ignore that plea and trash President Bush with the most vile and despicable language?

Seems they are getting a bit of their own back and they DESERVE IT.

I’m a constituent of Joe Wilson’s and I left a message on his web site: “THANK YOU.” He said exactly what millions of Americans were shouting at their televisions!!!!

Posted by Mike's America | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 12:59 am
- There is a big difference between voters bashing and an elected representative disrespecting the office. Even your own Congressman realized he went too far and apologized.
  
  Posted by vjp | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 9:30 am
  - I entirely agree. As with a salute in the military, one does not have to respect the man in the uniform, but one does have to respect the uniform.
    
    Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 10:23 am
Well, he was wrong to say it at that time, but he spoke the truth.

Don’t democrats respect the speaking to truth to power?

Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:00 am
This is why debating the GOP is an impossible job. They live in a Glenn Beck false news alternate universe. To them this;

House Bill: “No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens.” According to America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, Page 143, Line 3, Section 246: “No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens. Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” [America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009]

Is providing taxpayer paid health care to undocumented aliens. I will bet my last buck that all bills that will come to the House and Senate floor will have this language in it.

Posted by Newport News Dem | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:41 am
- But the amendments put forward to require that legal status be verified were defeated. With no enforcement measures, that line of the bill is meaningless.
  
  Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:50 am
  - And even if there were enforcement measures, who would enforce those measures? And are we going to get to see THEIR birth certificates? What if THEY were born in Kenya? Can they prove they WEREN’T born in Kenya? I mean, the whole thing could be yet another socialist plot to undermine the country ….
    
    Posted by spotter | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 6:01 pm
I think what we saw last night was the epitomy of the modern day so called republican.
And the fact that someone on this blog who says he is from joe wilson’s district is defending him is almost laughable if not so sad.
your party is in the wilderness, run by eric cantor and joe wilson.
just a note to that poster, wilson’s opponent raised over $200000 since last nights wilson moment.
so, beside being censured, he now has time to join all those teabaggers for sandord because he will soon be unemployed.

Posted by laura | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:14 am
- #386,000 as of 3:30 EDT today. $193k per word.
  
  The contributions are coming in at $43k per hour.
  
  Posted by Mark Brooks | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:03 pm
Oh and the modern day so called dem is just wonderful, they have the best ideas and can do wrong and everything they say makes perfect sense. Please, the dems are just as laughable if not more so!

Posted by rlewis | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 2:23 pm
- Still, I do not recall the dems’ heckling a Republican president who was addressing Congress.
  
  Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 2:57 pm
  - I stand corrected: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM
    
    Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:16 am
- Once again, you have removed all doubt.
  
  Posted by Mark Brooks | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 3:56 pm
- Ah but the modern day Democrat is WINNING ELECTIONS, something the Republicans aren’t! You’ve lost the House, you’ve lost the Senate, you lost the White House you lost the Virginia Senate, you lost the Virginia Governor’s job several times in a row, and you are about the lose the Virginia House of Delegates.
  
  Try to follow this, and not have a hissy outburst. There are rules of the House that Wilson broke. Rules that were written, oddly enough, by Republicans. Its about “civil discourse” which you republicans have lost, because you are, well, LOSERS! YOu can’t win elections, you have no idea’s, no plans so you start shouting and yelling and whining and having hissy fits, then you try to justify it! Then you sit around, blogging, wondering why your can’t win elections. One thing is certain, you aren’t attending any Mensa meetings!
  
  Posted by T.W. Bonsac | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:08 pm
  - The democrats were also winning in 1992.
    
    Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 5:17 pm
A Congressional Research Service report issued Aug. 25, 2009, confirmed our observation. The House bill “does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange—whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently,” the report said.

Posted by Max Shapiro | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:18 pm
- I believe this (pdf) is the report you are referring to. However, I think you are misreading it or equating “noncitizens” with illegal immigrants. The two are not the same and the report explains the difference.
  
  The entire section, for context:
  
  H.R. 3200 includes an individual mandate to have health insurance, with tax penalties for noncompliance. Individuals who do not maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for themselves and their children would be required to pay an additional tax. Some individuals, including nonresident aliens, would be exempt from the individual mandate. Nonresident alien is a term under tax but not immigration law. For federal tax purposes, alien individuals are classified as resident or nonresident aliens. In general, an individual is a nonresident alien unless he or she meets the qualifications under a residency test. Thus, legal permanent residents, and noncitizens and unauthorized aliens who qualify as resident aliens (i.e., meet the substantial presence test), would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance.
  
  In addition, under H.R. 3200, a Health Insurance Exchange would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option. The Exchange would provide eligible individuals and small businesses with access to insurers’ plans, including the public option, in a comparable way. Individuals would only be eligible to enroll in an Exchange plan if they were not enrolled in other acceptable coverage (for example, from an employer, Medicare and generally Medicaid). H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently. Nonetheless, only aliens who could be classified as resident aliens would be required under the bill to have health insurance.
  
  In 2013, under H.R. 3200, some individuals would be eligible for premium credits (i.e., subsidies based on income) toward their required purchase of health insurance. To be eligible for the premium credits under H.R. 3200, individuals must be lawfully present in a state in the United States, excluding most nonimmigrants (i.e., those in the United States for a specific purpose and a specific period of time). The exceptions for nonimmigrants who could obtain premium credits under H.R. 3200 would be trafficking victims, crime victims, fiancées of U.S. citizens, and those who have had applications for legal permanent residence (LPR) status pending for three years. It is expected that almost all aliens in these excepted nonimmigrant categories will become LPRs (i.e., immigrants) and remain in the United States permanently. Furthermore, unauthorized aliens would be barred from receiving the premium credit.
  
  So if I read this correctly, the Exchange portion would be open to illegal immigrants (although they would not be required to participate), but they would have to pay for it.
  
  Posted by vjp | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:36 pm
  - You read that correctly. However, there is nothing in the bill requiring that legal status be verified before receiving that premium credit. Amendments that would have put such enforcement provisions into the bill were defeated by the democrats in committee.
    
    Posted by Anon E. Mouse | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 9:21 pm
    - Agencies and departments are tasked by the Executive to make rules and regulations that adhere to the bill that was passed.
      
      Example: ADA
      
      Posted by Mark Brooks | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 9:59 pm
The Democrats are nervous they realize the failures of BHO are going to reward the Republicans with alot of seats in the HOD along with the top 3 seats in Va.

Posted by Will | Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:32 pm
What is in the water in South Carolina? If you thanked this guy for his absurd outburst you must have forgotten all your manners & everything your mother taught you.
This is quite embarrassing..

Posted by b.ro | Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:31 am
Representative Wilson’s outburst raises an opportunity…”President’s Questions.” http://www.sharedemergency.wordpress.com

Posted by Mitch Chester | Sunday, September 13, 2009, 10:28 pm