VIVIAN J. PAIGE

Fake NC ballot

Posted in National, Politics by vjp on May 3rd, 2008

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via Corrent:

A previously unknown PAC is distributing pre-marked ballots identical to those used in the North Carolina primary. They aren’t marked as “Sample Ballot” but actually carry a header that says “Official Ballot”.

They’re so convincingly real that some voters have turned up at early voting sites and tried to submit them as-is. Complaints to the State election board and DOJ have been ignored.

The PAC is so new that it hasn’t made any filings with the state, so there’s no way to know who they are or where their money is coming from, but a quick look at the fake ballot may provide some clues. Just guessing, but this is probably not from Hillary’s people.

More here.

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  1. Anon E. Mouse said, on May 3rd, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Oh, the depths to which those Republicans will stoop — sending out fake ballots to get Obama in trouble. :-)

  2. The Richmond Democrat said, on May 3rd, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    I think it’s a stretch to call this a “fake” ballot: it’s pretty clearly a botched attempt at a sample ballot. But I’m sure that accusing them of election fraud will win them over to Hillary’s cause.

  3. vjp said, on May 3rd, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    I disagree. The ballot carries the title “Official” rather than Sample. If it’s not a real ballot, it’s got to be a fake.

  4. The Richmond Democrat said, on May 4th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Oh please, not sophistry, not from you Vivian.

    This was obviously a sample ballot produced by some unsophisticated people who are new to the game. “The PAC is so new that it hasn’t made any filings with the state . . .”

    These kinds of mistakes are made by inexperienced people new to activism. I could point to similar mistakes made by Clinton activists, but why bother?

    Don’t get me wrong, these folks need to be corrected (maybe even punished), for their negligence, but don’t go off the deep end, and don’t pretend that Clinton’s hands are entirely clean in regards to this issue. Just ask Lamont Williams.

  5. vjp said, on May 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    RC - two points. One, I have a significant number of NC readers who may or may not be aware that this flier is not official. That’s why I put it up. Two, if you follow the links before jumping to the defense of the PAC, you might learn that the folks thought to be behind this are not new to politics.

  6. KCinDC said, on May 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    So what is it that you think is happening? The experienced folks behind this think that they’ll be successful in having unsuspecting voters show up and pass these ballots off as real? How would they not notice when the people at the polls give them the real ballots? I’m not quite sure how this is supposed to work if it’s a conspiracy to steal the election rather than a stupid mistake.

  7. TD Nguyen said, on May 8th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Go Viv!

    Other examples of his fraud:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-H8cYy5yUs

    http://www.electionjournal.org/?p=247

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