Opinion, please: What’s wrong with Hillary?

In this poll, 52% say they would not vote for Hillary Clinton for president. Reading thru the comments, I found an excellent question:

Any idea where all those negatives come from? Stupid partisan comments that throw more heat than light are NOT welcome. I can see anti-war people having a beef with her. I can see Bill Clinton haters transferring the hate to her. Some people don’t like that she tried to reform health care (can’t understand why that is a problem). I think some of it may be people who don’t like women who aren’t in their place. Otherwise what gives — her positions and agenda are little different from the other Democrats?

Good question. And given how well she performed the other night, a valid one. So why do so many people – including Democrats – say that they absolutely will not vote for Hillary?

67 thoughts on “Opinion, please: What’s wrong with Hillary?

  1. Mad Hatter: HRC? We haven’t heard her use “Rodham” in quite a while, now.

    Received an email from her web site today — it is signed Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Anon E Mouse: Her disrespect for women who stay home to take care of their children (and bake cookies)

    A quote of out context. What she said:

    “I suppose I could have stayed home, baked cookies and had teas. The work that I have done as a professional, a public advocate, has been aimed in part to assure that women can make the choices that they should make — whether it’s a full-time career, full-time motherhood, some combination, depending on what stage of life they are at — and I think that is still difficult for people to understand right now, that it is a generational change.”

    The source is Bernstein’s book.

  2. Anon — in the first link you are citing a 2000 Crossfire episode where they created their own video soundbite.

    Bernstein (p. 206): Later, that quotation often stood alone in the press, seemingly indicating only her contempt for housewives absent the words that followed: “The work that I’ve done as a professional, as a public advocate … (see above).” The abbreviated version, in sound bite form, permeated TV and radio news for days, and columnists cited her remarks as evidence of radical feminist disdain for traditional values.

    Now actually read your second link:

    JUDD (VO): Never mind that Clinton went on to say feminism means the right to choose work, or home, or both; the damage had been done. She’d been tagged an elitist and an ultra – feminist.

    PATRICIA O’BRIEN, AUTHOR: There’s an entire new generation of candidates, so there is therefore an entire new generation of candidates’ wives. And they are not the traditional women people have been used to seeing on the campaign trail and in the White House, and they have – they come with different lives, their own lives. They are not necessarily formed by their husbands’ careers, and this is causing all sorts of problems.

    JUDD (VO): Hadassah Lieberman, a career woman and wife of Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman, says Hillary Clinton, like most political wives, faces a no – win situation.

    HADASSAH LIEBERMAN: When they say nothing, there’s a problem. When they say something, there’s an even greater problem. And it sort of – what it does is, it reinforces the notion that a political wife should just step into the background and don’t say anything that’s controversial.

  3. Hillary Clinton has a law degree from Yale, and a long and distinguished career as an attorney in her own right. Are you saying she SHOULDN’T have the right to practice her profession?

    This whole phony pitting of “working moms vs. stay-at-home moms” is just a pretext for sexist ****. Women see through it and are not going to put up with it any more. Other women are not their enemy, no matter the personal and career choices they make.

    Many women who “stayed home” have now gone back to their chosen profession. Many go back and forth. Nor are men the enemy; they long ago accepted women at almost every level. Professional women like Hillary Clinton have nothing to apologize for, and a great deal to be proud of.

    These few remaining troglodytes are just looking for a polite veneer for their hateful garbage, since overt displays of sexism like calling women FemiNazis are likely to bring recrimination. See, for example, soon-to-be former Senator Nick Rerras.

  4. I am voting for Rudy Giuliani in 08! Hillary Clinton has no charm or personality whatsoever! All of the other dems suck!

  5. If Hillary would participate in an open debate she would have MUCH better chance at getting more support. As long as she will only answer questions from pre-selected people………..

  6. And just to clarify…

    WHITEWATER

    WHAT WHITEWATER WAS ALL ABOUT: Almost totally lost in the Clinton saga known as Whitewater is what Whitewater was originally all about. It was basically a land resort scam, frequently targeting elderly investors, of the sort that local TV stations win awards for exposing. From a 1996 Chicago Tribune editorial: “The legal issues will sort themselves out in time. But one thing has become all too clear. Bill and Hillary Clinton and their aides have made a concerted effort to deceive official investigators and the American public with half truths and outright lies . . . It’s not clear what the Clintons want to conceal, but it’s clear that they have made extraordinary efforts to do so.”
    JERRY SEPER, WASHINGTON TIMES, 2000 – The Arkansas Supreme Court, which is considering disbarment proceedings against President Clinton, yesterday said it also is investigating whether first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in fraud in a questionable Whitewater-related land deal. The probe, confirmed by the court’s Committee of Professional Conduct, has focused on accusations about Mrs. Clinton’s legal representation of a failed Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan Association real estate venture, which the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. called a “sham.”
    The Clintons’ partners in Whitewater were each convicted of multiple felonies: 18 counts of fraud and conspiracy in the case of Jim McDougal and four counts of fraud and conspiracy in the case of Susan McDougal. Jim McDougal would later die under questionable circumstances in prison, and Susan would be granted a full pardon by President Clinton (along with 140 others).

    HRC AND ETHNIC SLURS
    Virtually no attention has been given to Hillary’s Clinton’s reported anti-Jewish statements. This is another example of the impenetrable media bubble placed around HRC since her husband first ran for president. There have been a few exceptions. For example, in August 2000, the NY Post reported:
    “The Arkansas man who accused Hillary Rodham Clinton last month of uttering an anti-Semitic slur in 1974 has passed a lie-detector test arranged by The Post. Paul Fray, who has charged Mrs. Clinton called him a “f- – -ing Jew bastard” after Bill Clinton lost his race for Congress, cleared the polygraph exam administered Sunday near his home here. “There’s no doubt in my mind that Mr. Fray is truthful,” concluded state-licensed Arkansas polygrapher Jeff Hubanks, who gave the three-hour test. That same year former Arkansas state trooper and Clinton security officer, Larry Patterson, claimed that in their frequent arguments, Bill and Hillary Clinton would use such expressions as “Jew motherf*cker,” “Jew Boy” and “Jew Bastard,” punctuated by the breaking of furniture and often in the presence of their young daughter.

    CATTLE FUTURES
    TWO MONTHS after commencing the Whitewater scheme, Hillary Clinton invested $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she has a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out, she earned nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several noted economists calculated that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million.

    HRC AND WAL-MART
    In 1986, when Hillary was first lady of Arkansas, she was put on the board of Wal-Mart. Officials at the time said she wasn’t filling a vacancy. In May 1992, as Hubby’s presidential campaign heated up, she resigned from the board of Wal-Mart. Company officials said at the time that they weren’t going to fill her vacancy.

    So what the hell was she doing on the Wal-Mart board? According to published reports, she was placed in charge of the company’s “green” program to protect the environment.

    But nobody got greener than Sam Walton and his family. For several years in the ’80s, he was judged the richest man in America by Forbes magazine; his fortune zoomed into the billions until he split it up among relatives. It’s no surprise that Hillary is a strong supporter of free trade with China. Wal-Mart, despite its “Buy American” advertising campaign, is the single largest U.S. importer, and half of its imports come from China. And the Clintons depended on Wal-Mart’s largesse not only for Hillary’s regular payments as a board member but for travel expenses on Wal-Mart planes and for heavy campaign contributions to Bill’s campaigns there and nationally. .

    JOHNNY CHUNG
    CNN, MARCH 1998 – Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung has agreed to plead guilty to election law violations and cooperate in the ongoing Justice Department investigation into illegal campaign fund-raising in the 1996 elections. . . Chung became a major figure in the Democratic fund-raising scandal when it was learned he made almost 50 visits to the White House. During one visit, Chung gave first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton’s then-chief of staff, Maggie Williams, a $50,000 check for the Democratic National Committee. The check was delivered inside the White House. Two days later Chung was able to bring a group of Chinese businessmen to watch President Bill Clinton deliver a radio address in the Oval Office. They then had their picture taken with the president. The DNC returned more than $300,000 that Chung raised because of questions about the source of the money. Chung reportedly funneled several hundred thousand dollars from Chinese military intelligence to Bill Clinton’s 1996 campaign. As Chung put it once, “I see the White House is like a subway — you have to put in coins to open the gates.” He was talking about the $50,000 he gave Hillary Clinton’s top aide while seeking VIP treatment at the White House.

    LINCOLN BEDROOM
    FOX NEWS, 2000 – Hillary Rodham Clinton denied allegations that she or her fund-raisers offered overnight stays in the Lincoln Bedroom and Camp David to supporters of her Senate campaign. “We have friends and supporters come and spend time with us and spend the night with us that we are getting to know and who like spending time with us,” Clinton said when questioned at a campaign stop at a western New York diner. “I don’t see what’s news about that.” . . . White House staffers said that since the summer of 1999 there have been at least 26 instances in which people, mainly couples, were overnight guests after donating to the first lady’s campaign or promising to do so. . .

    THE CLINTON HEALTH PLAN FIASCO
    TONY SNOW, 1999: In 1994, [HRC] set out to redesign the American health-care system and convened a panel that drafted its plan secretly — in violation of federal law . . . The plan prescribed some eye- popping maximum fines: $5,000 for refusing to join the government- mandated health plan; $5,000 for failing to pay premiums on time; 15 years to doctors who received “anything of value” in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy; $10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork; $50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment; and $100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings . . . When told the plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, “I can’t be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America.” When a woman complained that she didn’t want to get shoved into a plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, “It’s time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of the rights of individuals.” As for privacy, forget it: Her plan would have required people to carry national identification cards that embedded confidential patient information on computer chips.

    THE PELLICANO CONNECTION
    Though the American press insists on not reporting this inconvenient detail, Anthony Pellicano was first hired by Bill and Hillary Clinton in 1992 in a bid to discredit Gennifer Flowers’ steamy tape recordings of conversations with Mr. Clinton.. . . In the January 1992 issue of GQ magazine, Pellicano boasted of the dirty work he had performed for his clients, including blackmail and physical assault. He claimed to have beaten one of his client’s enemies with a baseball bat. “I’m an expert with a knife,” said Pellicano. “I can shred your face with a knife.” Few mainstream news organizations uttered the name of Pellicano’s most famous client: Hillary Rodham Clinton. “Of the more than two dozen media reports on Pellicano’s arrest for possession of C4 explosive and grenades, none mentioned his ties to the Clinton attack machine.
    Kathleen Willey had the tires on her car mysteriously punctured with dozens of nails and her cat suddenly disappeared. Subsequently, Willey was out jogging near her home when a stranger approached and asked if the tires had been fixed and if the cat had been found. The man then asked Willey, “Don’t you get the message?” and jogged off. Willey also found an animal skull on her porch the day after she testified in the Paula Jones case.

    IT TAKES MORE THAN A VILLAGE TO GET CREDIT FROM CLINTON
    Things that happened to Barbara Feinman after becoming ghostwriter for “It Takes a Village,” Hillary Clinton’s book-like substance:
    — She got no acknowledgement in the book by HR Clinton, contrary to what was stipulated in the contract.
    — A reporter asked her how much she had written and she replied, “All I can say is they didn’t pay me $120,000 to spell-check it.”
    — The White House spread rumors that Feinman had been fired.
    — Simon & Schuster refused to pay the last $30,000 of her fee. Asked why, Feinman was told that the White House didn’t want her paid.

    Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it…
    THE CLINTON LEGACY

    RECORDS SET

    – The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance

    – Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates

    – Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

    – Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

    – Most number of witnesses (30+) to die suddenly from violent or unknown causes

    – First president sued for sexual harassment.

    – First president accused of rape.

    – First First Lady to come under criminal investigation

    – Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case

    – First president to establish a legal defense fund.

    – Greatest amount of known illegal campaign contributions

    – Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

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