I’m watching the coverage of the RBC hearing. I happen to be watching CNN’s coverage right now (you can watch streaming coverage here) but I’m sure other channels are covering it, too.
Anyone else watching?
Right now, DNC Howard Dean is speaking. Wants three things:
- Respect the voters in FL/MI, including those who didn’t vote
- Respect the campaigns who agreed to the rules
- Respect the other 48 states that didn’t break the rules
This ought to be interesting. I think, as they did roll call, that 27 of the 30 members of the committee are present.
EDIT: I forgot to mention a pretty significant piece of information that I got yesterday when participating in a press conference call with the Clinton campaign yesterday. The campaign completely disagrees with the notion that the other states with early primaries/caucuses (IA, NH, NV & SC) that I mentioned in this comment, broke the rules. These states were given permission to have their primaries early. MI/FL did not get the permission and thus, broke the rules.
UPDATE: The prepared remarks of Chairman Dean are below the fold.
“Thank you all for coming.
“This has been an extraordinary primary season. And we know it will be an historic election.
“The Democratic Party is going to nominate either the first woman or the first African American to be our party’s nominee. I believe that the person we choose will be elected president in November.
“Our party is so fortunate to have had such a strong field of Democratic candidates in this race. I want to thank all of our candidates and especially the two outstanding individuals who are now in the race: Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
“I know it has been a long and hard fought race. Throughout the course of this campaign you two have helped transform our party.
“You have proven that when we show up and talk about our values, Democrats can win everywhere. You have helped to make our party stronger. So thank you and thanks to your hardworking campaigns.
“While I will not try to gloss over the challenges of this extended primary I do want to take a step back and look at what our hard work has helped to accomplish.
“From Mississippi to Montana, Ohio to Oregon. Americans — women, men, Hispanics, African Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, young people, veterans, homemakers, educators, health care workers, students, retirees, Democrats, Independents and even Republicans, of all shapes and sizes have come out to support our two outstanding candidates and the values we share.
“Over 35 million people have come out to support our candidates all across our country.
“In state after state women represented well over half of Democratic voters, sometimes 60 percent.
“Young voters have tripled and in some cases quadrupled previous turnout – in fact 58 percent of voters under 30 now identify as a Democrat or lean Democratic, while only 33 percent associate with Republicans.
“Consider that in Ohio, twice as many people participated in the Democratic primary as in the Republican primary–2.2 million for Democrats compared to 1 million for Republicans–and thousands of Ohio Republicans switched parties to vote for a Democrat.
“In fact, in seven counties in Ohio–Putnam, Brown, Shelby, Belmont, Warren, Delaware, and Clarmont–the vote totals for our two Democratic candidates in the 2008 primary exceeded the votes for John Kerry in the general election in each of those counties.
“In Texas this year, more people voted in the Democratic primary than voted in the 2004 general election on the Democratic side in the state.
“So while I know it has been a long, tough campaign, it also made our candidates and our party stronger.
“And while the punditocracy in the media tried to tell the American people what to think and what to do, you stood up and spoke loudly to have your voices heard. And you made us all listen. And the race continues to the final contests in Puerto Rico, and on Tuesday in South Dakota and Montana.
“To each and every one of you who has voted and who will yet vote, I say not only thank you, but remind you that our work is just beginning. We need your help. We need you to stay involved in this election and get involved in the other races that are going on in your community and your state.
“We need you to knock on doors, make calls, to talk to your neighbors about what’s at stake in this election. Together, state by state, door by door, vote by vote, we are going to take our country back and we cannot do it without you.
“I also want to thank all of you who showed up here on a Saturday to attend the Rules Committee meeting, those of you who are here inside the hall, watching from home or outside. Cynics will look at today’s proceedings and look only for conflict, they will not recognize your tremendous commitment to our country.
“They will not realize that your energy, your passion for your candidates and your enthusiasm, demonstrate that our party is strong enough to have disagreements.
“We are strong enough to struggle, and disagree, be angry, disappointed and still come together at the end of the day and be united. The reason we are able to do this is because all of us, together in our passion and our emotion realize that this race is not about me, it’s not about Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the RBC or the reporters who are here to cover the event. It’s about restoring our great country.
“Over the course of the primary there have been some tough disagreements and some ugly moments in this campaign. On the blogosphere, and the airwaves. Emotions have run high and heated discussions have led at times to blatantly racist comments and, blatantly sexist comments particularly by some members of the media. We know that those comments have no place in our society and certainly no place in our party.
“It has got to stop. We have got to come together and unite our party. Every one of us has the responsibility to help ensure that our party is united.
“Part of that healing will begin with the discussion you will have today about Michigan and Florida.
“I want to thank the members of the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee, led so ably by Jim Roosevelt and Alexis Herman. Thank you for the countless hours of hard work you’ve put in to set forward rules that have guided this process and in ensuring a fair process.
“As you work to find a resolution, I ask that you keep three key principles in mind to guide your discussion and deliberation:
- Respect the voters of Florida and Michigan – not only those who turned out to vote, but also those who did not,
- Respect our two candidates and their campaigns who followed the rules this body set forward over two years ago, and,
- Respect the 48 states who did not violate the rules.
“Understandably, the compromise that you discuss here today will not make anyone completely satisfied.
“Years ago a ‘Democratic rules discussion’ was almost an invitation for a food fight in a crowded room like this of Democratic activists. We’ve moved beyond that – your actions today will put our party on a course of unity – a unity that will be on display in less than 90 days when we all meet again in Denver to showcase our nominee, the talent of the Democratic Party up and down the ticket and the values we share. This is the unity that will guide our work in the coming months as we work hard towards Election Day to show up and ask Americans to put their trust in Democrats to restore our country. This is the unity that we will show America when we inaugurate a Democratic president in January 2009 and the beginning of restoring our great country.”
Now that this is settled regardless of Ickes statement we Democrats have an election to be won. The ball is in HRC’s court now. she can take it to the convention wasting valuable time or she can try to win over 85% of the remaining superdelegates. those are her options. I thought the coverage was great and witnessed an event that obviously the Republicans would never have had open to the public. The bar is now 2118. One thing I did take from this coverage was that the Clinton political machine does not rule the Democratic Party.
That Michigan “solution” was utter BS and resembles Soviet style politburo politics, whether in the open or behind closed doors. How dare they steal delegates from HRC and GIVE not only her delegates to BO, but use some heavenly powers to decide what 600k voters meant to do and GIVE BO delegates he did not win. This is patently wrong and totally undemocratic and an absolute embarrassment. Kumbaya and a “new” type of politics is now for all to see utter hypocrisy! I the “ball” is in HRC’s court, BO would steal it!
I stand with the people of MI and their proper battle to take on the process that anoints NH with special privileges no other states enjoys.
We are about to nominate the weakest GE nominee since McGovern, the last one who received less votes and “won”.
How many times and ways can we screw the Florida voters? First in the last Presidential election, and now this. Certainly not very “democratic” in any
sense. Shame! Shame! Shame! They had a chance to do the right thing.
OK they paid reverence to the “rules”, but in the end they lost sight of
the big picture. All votes should count fully! This matter is far from settled.
It just got worse. My half vote just might stay home this election!
Sign me “a dis-allusioned “d”.
Newport News Dem,
What about the theory that HRC has that not one popular vote should count for Obama. ARe you ready to say on this blog that he would not have received one vote out of that state. Not in Detroit,not in Grand Rapids, not in Ann Arbor, no where in the state. HRC reps sat on national TV and said that they disagreed with the Michigan Democratic Committee, that they were entitled to everything in Michigan even though MS. HRC said the state would not count and even agreed to that ruling. the height of hypocrisy in my book. Now she wants, wants , wants while indicating she is willing to disenfranchise every voter in the other 48 states. Plain and simple as I have indicated before HRC has only herself to blame by not looking in a rearview mirror and seeing that she (the annointed one) actually had competition. Ickes, McCauliffe, and her husband should all be fired for a very lackluster performance. Actually a very stupid campaign staff this election year for HRC. I really thought at the beginning that she had put together an incredible team, but as I look back all she had was a bunch of Dem insiders that knew nothing about grassroot campaigns or even cared about people at our level of the political spectrum. they were the powerful, the insiders, the not to be touched speakers for our party. Well I say they got what they deserved, a loss. If Obama is the weakest candidate since McGovern, then it is what it is. I doubt that statement is even close to accurate, however if that is the way you feel then so be it. You actually should have taken my stand and not taken such an aggressive attitude towards the race however, you just can not forgive what happened to you in Richmond at the JJ where you could have easily walked away from the Obama agressiveness and probably unnecessary statements.
Both camps have committed big sins. Some of the Obama people were extremely aggressive and some of the HRC people were extremely irrational and also thought they were not to be opposed. HRC pullled a Michigan as I have said and overlooked Appalachian State. P.S. go have a cold one .
Can anyone PLEASE tell me what the rules/bylaws for a roll call vote are??
I say NO DEAL to the roll call vote for Hillary Clinton that would be a ‘symbolic jesture’. Isn’t the roll call vote supposed to stand for whomever wins according to rule/law?
The DNC is making a mockery of democracy. This means WAR for equal rights/civil rights/human rights/voter’s rights!!