Get over it? Yeah, right

Statute of Confederate Soldier Erected in Norfolk

Norfolk confederate statute

Lee Hart climbs a ladder to position a granite confederate soldier to the base of a monment in Elmwood Cemetery off Princess Anne Road this morning as members of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, Pickett-Buchanan Chapter 21, were on hand to watch the installation. PHOTO BY BILL TIERNAN / THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT

 

 

Many of the comments in my earlier post about the proposed resolution apologizing for slavery have a “get over it” kind of attitude. And then I click on PilotOnline and see this. Black folks are supposed to “get over” slavery but white folks are allowed to glorify the Confederacy.

Somehow, I think this is a bit of a double standard. If I need to “get over” slavery (despite the fact that the vestiges of slavery remain), then I think y’all need to “get over” this obsession with the Confederacy.

64 thoughts on “Get over it? Yeah, right

  1. “Terry — You owe the fact you are allowed to speak your opinion to the Bible. The Christian beliefs in free will and freedom of religion are almost unique amongst the world’s religions, and these beliefs are taught in the Bible. That alone makes the Bible worthy of your respect.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. Christianity (and religion in general, for that matter) is responsible for MOST wars throughout History. The fact alone that the bible has been changed throughout History by tyrants and rulers makes it irrelevent.

  2. That’s just an ignorant statement, Terry. Alexander’s conquests had nothing to do with religion, nor did those of Rome. The wars between France and England, and between Spain and England, were not religiously motivated. Our revolution and “The War of Northern Aggression” were not religiously motivated, nor were the Spanish-American War, the War of 1812, or the French and Indian War. WWI and WWII were not religiously motivated, either. Nor were the Korean and Viet Nam Wars.

  3. Terry – Lots of things that are taught as conventional wisdom are just plain wrong. Christianity did not start wars. People who claimed to be Christians started wars. In fact, Christianity has played a major role in ending wars.

    With the invention of the printing press, something very important happened. Copies of the Bible became inexpensive. That simple fact, perhaps more than any other, initiated the Protestant Reformation.

    With the Protestant Reformation, people start feuding over their religious beliefs. People, after all, will be people. However, over time more and more people actually read the Bible. Eventually, enough people began to understand Jesus’ teachings. They realized that Jesus would not condone one person trying to force Christianity on another.

    In the 20th Century, we did not fight wars over religion. WWI and WWII had almost nothing to do with religion. These wars were principally about the accumulation of power by a godless elite. More than anything else, tyrants suppressed religion. Hitler’s version of Christianity was just plain weird. The official religion of the Communists is atheism.

  4. Citizen Tom,

    “Christianity did not start wars.”
    But you can’t deny a literal interpretation of specific OT verses have been used to justify violence.

    “The official religion of the Communists is atheism.”
    That doesn’t mean communism IS atheism. No one was killed in the NAME of atheism.

  5. People who happened to be non-theistic, attached to other irrational ideologies, yes.

    One could make a strong argument that abstinence-only education in aids-ridden Africa is essentially genocide.

  6. Terry,

    The point is that you brought up your view that those that have studied history understand that marriage is one man married to one woman.

    It is amusing that you dismiss a document that is 2,000 years old as a source for history – because it was written 2,000 years ago.

    Frankly, that makes very little sense.

    As others have pointed out, each decade more discoveries are found that support the historical information recorded in the bible.

    As to the Christain faith “starting wars” – wow! Now that statement reveals the need for you (Terry) to go back a study history, as well as the bible.

    But of course, being as you enjoy the role of being a sniper – you just don’t have time to do that – according to your posts.

    Terry, I truely encourage you to take the time to read the bible – and then perhaps you will learn how foolish your comment about those that have – really is.

    Getting back to the actual topic of this forum – the GA apologizing for slavery.

    * It doesn’t hurt anything – other than wasting precious time when the GA could be doing something meaningful instead

    * It doesn’t do anything – because, as we have read here – the “apology” will not lead to forgiveness

    * In my opinion it was far more politically motivated then sincere – because, no of the GA members had anything do do with the slavery of Blacks in Virginia

    But, at the end of the day – it is clear to me it did serve a purpose. It caused people to reveal their views on the matter – and perhaps, IF anyone is listening to anyone else – understanding has happened.

    As Terry probably meant to say with her ‘History Lessons’ comment – knowledge is good (Faber College – Animal House). Studying history is very useful for helping us all to better understand how the events of today are impacted by the events of the past. For some people, the “slavery” of the past does impact their lives – in some cases due to how others precieve them based on the color of their skin. Also based on how they view preceive the actions of others – based on the color of their own skin – and on the color of the skin of others they interact with.

    In closing, it is also true that if a person keeps picking off the scabs on their wounds before the wound heals – it will never heal.

    Healing is good too.

  7. Stephen — What excuse has not been used to justify violence? Consider one of Aesop’s Fables.

    The Wolf and the Lamb

    WOLF, meeting with a Lamb astray from the fold, resolved not to lay violent hands on him, but to find some plea to justify to the Lamb the Wolf’s right to eat him. He thus addressed him: “Sirrah, last year you grossly insulted me.” “Indeed,” bleated the Lamb in a mournful tone of voice, “I was not then born.” Then said the Wolf, “You feed in my pasture.” “No, good sir,” replied the Lamb, “I have not yet tasted grass.” Again said the Wolf, “You drink of my well.” “No,” exclaimed the Lamb, “I never yet drank water, for as yet my mother’s milk is both food and drink to me.” Upon which the Wolf seized him and ate him up, saying, “Well! I won’t remain supperless, even though you refute every one of my imputations.” The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.

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