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MT/SD open thread

The primary season, which feels like it started two years ago, will be coming to an end this evening. My candidate, Senator Hillary Clinton, will be making a speech in NY, the content of which is unknown. Earlier in the day, the AP reported she would concede tonight but campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe says not so. What do you think Clinton will do?

Poll closes at 9pm

The other thing that has been bandied around is Clinton’s willingness to serve as Obama’s VP, should it be offered. So what do you think? Should Obama select Clinton as his running mate?

I’m going to leave this poll open for a while.

Consider this an open thread.

UPDATE 9:24pm: Both NBC and CNN call SD for Hillary

UPDATE 10:01pm: Both NBC and CNN call MT for Obama.

UPDATE 11:42pm: Message from Hillary below the fold.

Hillary for President

Dear Vivian,

Over the course of this campaign, I have seen the promise of America in your courage and character, your energy and ingenuity, and your compassion and faith.

Your spirit has inspired me every day in this race. While I traveled this country talking about how I wanted to help you — time and again, you reached out to help me. To grab my hand or grip my arm, to look me in my eyes and tell me, don’t quit, keep fighting, stay in this race for us. There were days when I had strength enough for the both of us — and on the days I didn’t, I leaned on you.

This has always been your campaign, and tonight, there’s no one I want to hear from more than you. I hope you’re as proud as I am of what we’ve done and that you’ll take a moment to share your thoughts with me now at my website.

I want to congratulate Senator Obama and his supporters on the extraordinary race that they have run. Senator Obama has inspired so many Americans to care about politics and empowered so many more to get involved, and our party and our democracy are stronger and more vibrant as a result.

Whatever path I travel next, I promise I will keep faith with you and everyone I have met across this good and great country. There is no possible way to thank you enough for everything you have done throughout this primary season, and you will always be in my heart.

Sincerely,
Hillary
Hillary Rodham Clinton

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38 thoughts on “MT/SD open thread

  1. Who’s “you guys”, NND? Were you under the impression that my comments are a group effort? I’m going to assume that Gene knows better than I, and just urge you to be a little more sensible, even after a few cold ones.

  2. Gene, my brother… had 1 cold one at 5:30 this evening.

    It may soon (November 15th?) be time to try to get beyond the primary, regardless if I continue to boycott the aforementioned media outlets or not. I read the blogs, I listened to the radio and watched the TV shows all day long. These sites and shows were my 24/7 media world. The venom, disrespect and lies that emanated from them were nothing but what I call “merchants of hate” towards HRC. I am not talking about you or Linda or the many backers of BO who I call my dear friends. There are far more of you guys that I love than my fellow backers of MY GIRL, even though she got more primary votes than your guy!!!!!

    So yes, the term is exactly how I think and is directed like a laser to those media sources, traditional and new, for which the shoe fits. I said it before, I love everyone, until you stick a shiv in me.

    15th comment was snark for the humor deficient.

    Love ‘ya, except for the UM cracks. Lay off the Red Wings, too!

  3. MB, sober as a judge and I urge you to resist any condescending lectures on that which I deem to be sensible, deal?

    You are the one who blasphemously accused me of the very vile (and drunk too) about that which I wrote, hate, so you have no room to lecture anyone on sensibility. Additionally, the actual tongue and cheek comment on this thread was directed only at one web site, the orange stain that was linked, although I have mentioned the other offenders many other times.

  4. While perhaps it is prudent for Hillary to suspend her campaign for now, I do not think it unwise for her to keep her campaign officially open up until the last vote is cast at the convention at the end of August. Plenty of time between now and then for buyer’s remorse to set in. Supers’ votes are never certain until cast (as we have learned) and even elected, committed delegates’ votes can be changed (as we have also learned).

    Besides, I look back somewhat fondly on the days when political conventions actually mattered and were not just boring campaign rallies.

    If Hillary does not fold her tent there will actually be a reason to describe Barack as only the presumptive nominee.

  5. newport news dem,
    As you also realized my whole blog was tongue and cheek, you knew from the start of this that I could have enthusiastically supported HRC or Obama. Unlike you however, I had two gin and limes last night. Furthermore, I don’t support the outsourced Red Wings, or the Detroit Tigers, however regardless of how I talk about your beloved Michigan wolverines, I would have no problem seeing them beat Ohio State each and every year.
    p.s. Just one brewster, damn are you ill.

  6. Suspend the campaign? For crying out loud, even Hillary’s own crazy math should acknowledge that Obama has won outright and without doubt. It’s time to concede defeat before she becomes the Democratic version of Ron Paul, who by the way, is also still in the Repub race even though the other guy won the nomination mathematically. BTW, Hillary for VP would make it HARDER for Obama to be elected. Is there another Democratic politician alive besides Hillary that can energize the Republican base? The amount of sheer unadultered HATE that the dittoheads have for this woman is insane.

  7. JeffCon – I disagree on Hillary’s energizing the Republican base. I have from the beginning. I have always felt that the Republicans see Hillary as the stronger candidate and that they put out the meme that she would energize the base and that D’s bought it hook, line and sinker. You don’t hear the Rs saying that anymore, do you? No, just the Ds.

    What makes me even more convinced is the response I’ve gotten from Rs just over the last few days. Ordinary conservatives, without prompting, some I’ve known for a while, others I’ve just met, told me that they found Hillary impressive and would have considered voting for her over McCain (one told me that he would have voted for her over McCain).

    If there is any group that has demonstrated hatred for Hillary, it has to be Ds. And that’s pretty sad.

  8. Well, I did think Clinton was the stronger candidate, and I also thought that there was truth that it would mobilize a significant segment of the GOP base (I just didn’t think that was all that scary. So what? It’s not a particularly complicated base to get energized. God! Guns! Gays! Git ’em!). I was – and remain – sure that Clinton could beat McCain and that energized base.

    What I completely missed was the breadth of Obama’s appeal. I really wouldn’t have predicted what we’ve seen at all. Now I guess we’ll get to test the depth.

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